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Ryan Muehlbauer - First World Record 6:23 (Crackhead Ryan) Frank Wolfe - First ever "I Puked On Kain Award" Joe Straub - World Record 5:40.79 (TP) Glenn Babikian - 6:37 (Pretty Boy) Humberto Cavalheiro - 6:54.97 (Turtle Boy) Mary Endico - 8:29 (The Black Widow) Kain Cup holder Crackhead Ryan (04/19/11)
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27233/31/2008 12:48:00 AMJODo you think maybe the fear of having his fancy grabbed is the reason SlingShot always rides so far behind everybody?

 Leave him out of this.

 
27223/31/2008 12:21:00 AMSlingShotOr maybe she's trying to grab yours?

 Hey, who said that?

 
27213/30/2008 11:57:00 PMddoTI think Cranky always rides BEHIND me, because she's afraid I'll "grab her fancy."

   
27203/30/2008 10:28:00 PMPCPBrain like a sieve. Forgot to tape Lauren Warren. Did anyone see it? What was the story line? Yes people saw it. In fact this was the second time for some.

No need to repeat the thematic elements in order for you to skim them here. The program will air again:

*Mystery Diagnosis dates are:
   Mon April 21st 9:00 PM
   Sat April 26th 9:00 PM
   Sat May 3rd 2:00 PM

If the anticipation of lesbian scenes didn't grab your fancy (enough for you to remember), maybe the extended doughnut fill will hold your attention.

Try harder next time.

 

Editor's Note: Although there have been several references to risqué behavior relative to the Lauren Warren documentary segments, ARC stands rigidly apposed to anybody ever grabbing Cranky's fancy, nor holding her attention.

That's all we have to say on the subject.

 
27193/30/2008 8:27:00 PMJOToday, in their respective races, Dave Freifelder got first, G Douglas Allan got a third, Joe Straub got a fifth. and Little Danny Sullivan won a 14th.

 Looks like spring training for the Hump is coming along nicely.

 
27183/30/2008 2:59:00 PMToe Clip GuyI just wanted to be #600!

 Perfect. Now, squeal like a pig.

 
27173/30/2008 2:58:00 PMToe Clip GuyYesterday, I saw proof positive that some of the things I read here (a.k.a. bullshit) and in the journals out in the real world can sometimes provide potentially injury saving, if not life saving, tips.

During the middle of my ride on The Grind the winds were kicking up really strong. At one point on a slight downslope, I was picking up good speed and at that very moment strong winds from the west gusted really hard; almost simultaneusly I got strong crosswinds from the east. That caused my bike to start shimmying violently.

Just before I totally lost control at nearly 30mph, I started screaming so loud that the rednecks nearby took cover.

In a split second it occurred to me, "WWSSD?"

I grabbed the top bar with both knees, and that helped suppress the vibration that otherwise would have no doubt caused me to crash.

So, for all the extraneous stuff we get here and elsewhere, thank you.

At the very least, you saved me from the rednecks who most certainly would NOT have called 911 but would have dragged me off into the bushes like road kill.

 Ah… I'm not sure that I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Toe Clip. Yah?

First off, I have gone through all the things what SlingShot would do, and (as apposed to your own conclusion) I am pretty sure SlingShot would have shit his pants.

As for the rednecks, instead of leaving you in the bushes, I am quite sure they would have much better in store for you.

 
27163/29/2008 9:56:00 PMddoTAny hump report from the Early Birds?

 It is tomorrow morning, and nobody has responded, so allow me to report, but keep in mind that I was not there.

In any case, it is always the same, so this should be pretty accurate.

Nuclear Dan showed up his usual 15 minutes early.

BLASTER showed up on time as usual, and Dan considered him 15 minutes late.

Bob and Mary were not there, and it took the others 15 minutes more to decide they weren't coming, because it could have been merely that Bob was still trying to take a shit—as usual.

Dan and Jim spent that time complaining about various aches and pains, and reviewing how out of shape they are, and how slow they were going to go.

On the first hill Dan said to Jim, "Well, they are supposed to be in the best shape of their lives, so it probably would take to here to drop Bob."

Jim replied, "If not on the "S" turn."

A few hills later Jim said to Dan, "There. By now the Widder would have taken a shortcut."

Later still Jim asked, "It's fucking cold. Why did we do this?"

Dan said, "I couldn't take it anymore. I was tired of icicles on my bicycles."

DISCLAIMER: The phrase "icicles on my bicycles" was stolen from ddoT's post #2677.

We are not sorry about stealing it.

We would have stolen something else if there was anything better.

 
27153/29/2008 3:25:00 PMTurtle
Boy
Hi, Mary,

I went for a little spin on the Computrainer this morning. I did 21.40 miles at 28.2 miles an hour with an aveage wattage of 264.

Is that ok?

Please, ask Bob.

avg\s; p\s; avg\w; p\w; time
Humberto 28.2; 35.2; 264; 556; 45:28
MetalMan 28.0; 34,5; 465; 609

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Looks ok to me.

We relayed the info to Pretty Boy at the top of Ridgebury, and he said, "Yeah? Let's see how the motherfucker does without his little MetalMan to draft."

Does everybody who gets fast have to start sounding like Kevin Douchebag Haley?

 
27143/29/2008 1:08:00 PMToe Clip Guy….did you say a special scene showing Lauren crossing the finish line victoriously while at the same time glancing over to Kim while Download is in her classic pose???.....I'M IN!!!

 Close enough.

Everybody better watch it. 7:00 PM, tonight, Discovery Channel Health, Lauren and Michelle.

Be there, or be square.

 
27133/29/2008 1:05:00 PMToe Clip Guy......rude boy!   
27123/29/2008 3:24:00 AMSlamCrankWhat the hell has become of this site? Are you trying to compete with Howard Stern?

 Didn't you hear what I said? Lesbians on a date!

 
27113/29/2008 3:19:00 AMARC StaffAnybody who missed it the first time (plus a bunch of you who should really see it again), set your calendars before going to the Hump this morning.

Lauren Warren is going to be on the Discovery Health Channel in a repeat of: Mystery Diagnosis

Sat March 29th 7:00 PM

She appears in the second half of the first half hour, and there are great photos of Lauren in a classic coming across the finish line pose which rival ARC's own photos of Download Kim in the Hump parking lot.

Now, set your calendar, don't forget, and get over to the Big V parking lot for your ass kicking.

 You forgot to mention the video segment of lesbians on a movie date. That alone is worth the price of admission.

 
27103/28/2008 9:23:00 PMBLASTERThe Early Bird Special is going out at 8:30 am tomorrow. Nuclear Dan will be there.

 Let's see. If we leave right now, we can be there by Monday evening.

You'd better start without us.

 
27093/28/2008 8:11:00 PMARC StaffddoT, Zirra.EXTRA
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27083/28/2008 6:30:00 PMddoTDon't forget to factor in my fat ass sucking her wheel the whole way.

 Although that is a significant amount of sucking, we have figures returned from NASA which indicate the sucking will be counteracted by your gasping over and over again, "NO WAY. NO WAY. SHE'S NOT…"

Yes. She is.

 
27073/28/2008 5:51:00 PMZirraWhere was I? Oh, I don't know—learning what a screaming infant sounds like?

Do you attempt to calculate drag and gearing calculations? I assume that the Widder is using some crap setup like 53-12 final gearing.

How about feet of total ascent on the Hump? mapmyride.com or Google Earth should get the info you need to predict Widder's performance.

k

 The screaming has addled your noggin'.

Apparently you never followed the link to the online caclulator which lets you put in all the specs for weight, size, bike specs, etc, so I won't post the link again here.

Suffice it to say, you must be reading far too many of those overly analytical "let us distract you with some slight-of-hand faux math and science while we relieve you of your wallet" websites.

Our simplified chart has proven more than adequate to keep us on track.

Comparing it to Mary's results so far, along with the calculations from the online calculator, it appears the chart has already factored in some rather stringent assumptions for aero equipment, position, and appropriate cycling gear in general.

Mary's results with the watt meter have been slightly over the curve, my own (fat assed results) have been below the curve.

In any case, we have no need to "predict" her performance, for we are going to achieve her performance.

Also, you probably missed the rather major point about how the Hump starts at one point on the earth, then ends up on the exact same point on the earth,

Therefore, the downhills exactly equal the uphills, and the sum total is a null elevation factor.

However, just for my own amusement (and to help us explain to all the idiots in the world what we've done after we've done it), we are going to get an altimeter when we get back home and do our own split by split mapping of The Hump.

We are calling it the:

Humpadetic Survey.

Otherwise, (and I am almost reluctant to mention it again, because the most of us have been over this a few hundred times), we are going to choose a day in which the wind assist is optimal, and Mary's period is non-existant, and her energy level is in that just so perfect range of, "I can do this."

Since we don't have to show up with a few thousand other people who have decided it is the day they are going to waste their vacation on by paying for a ride with numbers, we will enjoy the fine advantage of choosing the exact and most optimal moment for Mary, not for the media.

The 23+ Widder's Hump is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of fact.

 
27063/28/2008 7:47:00 AMZirraHere you go:

analyticcycling.com, is a wonderful website that will predict watts mph, etc, etc.

The true test of cycling ablity is the individual time trial: ITT for those at home.

I am calling Mary out: find a nice fair course and remove all deception, lies, sandbags, etc. Push the pedals as hard as you can for a given distance. Faster time wins.

She may be old, but I am fat.

Watts per kilo. That is the magic number. Have a gander at 1890. You guess the kilos.

k

 Where the fuck were you when I was trying to track this information down in January?

Anyway, I went to the site, and it appears to be loaded with commercial content.

In any case, at the bottom of one of the Widder's Hump pages is a simplified chart which provides a quick index of watts vs. speed.

A few paragraph's below it are two links to online calculators sans infomercial content. I've provided a link to that page at right. >>>

All of Mary's results are tracking just above the curve shown on the simplifed chart.

No need to find a course. Just submit your specs. Better yet here's the time to beat: Mary's current best (which she could do this afternoon, tomorrow, or whenever required) is 12 minutes with a measured average watts of 198.

No need to worry about hills, if you can hold your wattage on the downhill.

Your speed may vary, but we couldn't give a rats ass about the time. We are on track for her to complete a 23+ Hump (ITT), and you know where that course is.

Our first order of business, when we get back to NY, will be to do the first 4 mile split at 200 watts, take a recovery for the second split, then another 4 mile split at 200 watts. That will put us at the top of Ridgebury.

Well, actually, that will put Mary at the top of Ridgebury. My days of riding with her are over the middle of next week, unless I manage to take off another 30 lbs in the next 7 days.

BTW: How long did you hold the 1890?

Actually, it doesn't matter. Mary will never hit that mark in her lifetime, nor will I, and probably neither will ddoT.

Therefore, since we believe you: you have won. Widder says uncle.

Now you can get back to raising your daughter and keeping her out of the Internet and other similarly horrible places such as your favorite restaurants.

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27053/28/2008 3:55:00 AMU.S. CensusOur records show the Widder to be 53 years old?

 Why, yes. She is.

 
27043/28/2008 1:13:00 AMZirra165 watts and 20.1 on a 16 mile pancake flat course.

The Holy Grail of a sub 1 hour 40k is well within reach—I think widder might be the next Cancellara.

Do I hear a TT challenge for the CV folks? Forget that climbing crap, get out the 55 and get in the hurt box for 59 minutes.

 I am pretty sure I did not understand a single word of that.

In any case, a sub hour 40k would be a 25.80 mph avg which is most likely not in the Widder's future, due to the 312 watt avg which would be required, according to my best guess.

I am also guessing that for you the watts required would be much higher, plus you would never be able to make up the uphill on the downhill, and that's why you have such an aversion to hills.

For the Widder: uphill, downhill, flat… makes no difference.

Granted, Mary's speed vs. watt ratio has continuously shown she is hitting slightly higher than expected speeds (no doubt due to her more than perfect for cycling body), but as for a continuously sustainable 312 watts, it is unlikely she will ever put out that kind of power.

On the other hand, Mary does put out a lot, so who knows.

I assume your CV reference fits in well with the American Road Cycling 3 simple rules of cycling:

   1) fewer watts per mph
   2) fewer heart beats per watt
   3) less effort per heart beat

At least that's what my quick googling for the meaning of CV found. I had to look it up, because I have never come across that particular marketing term before.

In any case, that still seems like an awful lot of technical jargon for this little mom & pop non-technical website.

I hope you haven't confused us with SlowBitch?

Editor's Note: By stating the Widder's average speed for today's assault on the 16 mile test course (which includes amongst the headwinds: one small bridge; one larger bridge; two traffic circle turn-arounds; one hard right in the face of darting autos, RV's, and trailered fishing boats; two bottle necks beside road work, plus a long stretch of "get the fuck out of my way you asshole cyclist" right next to your left ear narrow roadway; and one death defying jump across traffic already pissed off by draw bridge nonsense to gauntlet a final turn-around), we in no way meant to imply that her 20+ mph avg equaled 20.1 mph as alluded to by Mr. Zirra.

The true figure was: 20.0025 mph, not that we are trying to be overly precise. We are merely trying to be clear.

 
27033/28/2008 12:01:00 AMTampa
Pete
I heard the Widder finally called you a genius today. That's right. I was afraid we were not going to have enough time for a summary test before going back to NY, but we got the final in today.

I set it up yesterday with her assignment on the Fort De Soto test course.

I said, "Just forget everything we've been working on, and go back to the way you used to ride. Do it any way you want. Only try for a personal best avg mph on the test course. Don't worry about anything but that. We will use the data to give us a baseline for your current best average watts to work from when we get back North."

Unfortunately, she fudged the clearing of her mph avg at the start of the loop, and she didn't think to stop the test for a do-over. Instead, she went back to watching her average watts similar to what she has learned lately.

Fortunately, she forgot that we worked really hard to bring her up to only 2 x 200 watt 12 minute intervals with a long rest in between, and she decided she could keep her watts at 200 for the 16 mile test.

Duh!

She burnt herself out on the first split and never fully recovered for the rest of the ride.

Her final watt average ended up being 161.7 which was only a few tenths higher than her last test on the course.

However, it was for the full 16 this time. Last time she blew up at mile 12, and I had to pull her in. Therefore, it was a pretty good personal best to do the full 16, plus do it a little stronger than before.

This morning I said, "Let’s go back to the test course. I want to try something.

Today's assignment was for her to make full use of all the stuff we've been working on, and especially use the skills we defined over the last few weeks of hard intervals.

I said, "Use the technique from the last hard intervals. Start the split by over pushing the start for three strides, then let the wattage settle down to no more than 165. Your goal will be to hold the 162 average which you've never done. To give you a little buffer, we'll let you sit on 163, and if it drops to 162 push it back up, but never go above 165. Got it?"

During the first split, I reminded her that although it must feel very easy to be under 165, she should still be as efficient and relaxed as possible.

Toward the end of the second split I realized we might also be beating her personal best mph avg for the loop, so I asked her to get in her drops for awhile into the wind.

In the third split I pointed out that she was losing form with her left leg, and she corrected. That happened twice.

Toward the end of the last split I reminded her she was allowed to push harder if she felt like it. She did.

When it was all over we were 3 tenths of a mile faster than yesterday, and she had posted a personal best sub 50 minute 16 mile loop. That's a 20+ mph average, not to mention a personal best of 165.75 watts average.

During the cool down Mary said, "That was the easiest 20+ I have ever done. It was insanely easier than yesterday. In fact I'm sure I could have held 175 like that for the full 24 back to the parking lot, but I didn't want to screw up the test. I think I finally see what we are working toward. You are a genius!"

Which is pretty ironic, because making the Widder faster is the stupidest thing I have ever done.

Editor's Note: Mary's ability to hold her watt average without looking at the current wattage (necessary due to a limitation in the Powertap) is a skill we have put significant effort into over the last four months.

Add to that the ability to give in to the wind while keeping the same watts, hold the same watts both uphill and downhill, not worry about current speed, and you will be dissuaded from trying this yourself at home.

It is Masters Class stuff.

 
27023/27/2008 10:30:00 PMPCPShe yelled at me also to PULL!!! So Slingshot, next time I yell at you to pull, you can thank Mary. It is a vicious circle.

 You know… I always wondered what it was. Now I know.

 
27013/27/2008 9:45:00 PMPretty BoyMary taught me to trust no one while cycling. Can't learn that in a book.

 Actually, you can learn it in a book, but if the Widder teaches, you never forget.

 
26993/27/2008 12:47:00 PMARC StaffWe are sure everybody in that break will be thanking the Widder for yelling at a newbie Pretty Boy on the Hump (three or four years ago), "NO! Don't you dare stop! Keep pulling!!!" and following up by teaching him to be ruthless.

 You guys trying to get Mary bitch slapped too?

 
26983/27/2008 12:34:00 PMDave
Freifelder
Some were asking "What did Glenn do?"

I will simply write this:

Glenn bridged up solo to the break with me and Carter Jones (US Junior team kid) in it. We were later joined by Mark Light and the best boy from the Army Racing team.

The five of us drove the pace and easily made the break succeed. I was at my rivet most of the time, pushing above my threshold power.

I could not attack the break, because I was at my limit. Glenn was at his limit, but was still there.

Glenn never got dropped and was beneficial in the break's success. The Army guy rolled off the front on the last lap as Mark, myself, and Carter were marking each other and managed to hold a TT to the end for first.

Glenn was the first to react and chase, but I knew he was shot. I jumped and then moved over to have Carter get in front of me, but he let up and Mark came around me. I jumped on his wheel but was unable to get him at the line. Glenn rolled across for fifth. But it was a hard fifth.

Impressive!!

 Don't none of you bozos tell Dave about this. He doesn't know he posted it here.

On the other hand, since you all now hate Pretty Boy (Glenn Babikian) so much, go ahead a bitch slap him if you must.

 
26973/27/2008 11:37:00 AMPCPYes. The weather up here is frightful. It gives new meaning to the 23+ Hump… like over 23 degrees.

 No, it does not give new meaning. Since you've been skimming you have missed all the specs which include: 23+ degrees a distant memory (of course), 23+ lucky turns, 23+ people pulling, 23+ tailwind in four directions, 23+ days to complete it, etc.

 
26963/27/2008 2:13:00 AMG. DougWith all this chatter about watts and power meters and such, I get the feeling that the Computrainer center is now considered old technology. But, it beats riding in the ice /sleet /snow /rain /high winds bad weather days.

 Actually, the Computrainer gives a more immediate feedback than the Powertap. It appears the power meter's CPU does internal smoothing of the data before displaying it on screen.

In any case, I had Mary doing a lot of exercises on her Computrainer before we got the meter for her bike. That groundwork was crucial to her learning the power meter, and we will return the skills she has learned on the road back to the trainer once we get home.

Otherwise, I can report that the two methods report watts effectively the same. The results Mary got at home on the Computrainer were easily repeated on the road with the Powertap with regard to watts vs. speed.

However, if I had my druthers, there are a few changes I would make to both systems.

Here's part of my forecast:

The next generation power meters will have transducers embedded in the crank arm itself in order to register torque directly from the point of application. They will also read the torque in both directions, forward and backward.

They will also include a multi-tapped armature in the bottom bracket in order to more precisely report smoothness of spin, but I have already said too much.

Expect changes to stationary trainers and software along the same lines. They really should… well, it's a long story.

BTW: We have heard that Turtle Boy School hit the road for a quick 50 miles yesterday . George, Dan, and the Boy himself did well, but they dropped a lesser known rider who came along for the punishment.

 
26953/27/2008 1:21:00 AMLockLinkOh, my… wheeu… that is rich. SlingShot (-b) quiet and polite.

Apparently Lauren missed such episodes as this. >>>

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26943/26/2008 11:49:00 PMLaurenToe Clip Guy,

[re: post #2685]

I know, I know, so I have been told. That is how I often get into trouble, a tad too naïve.

I came out, but I don't get out much ;).

I have often been heard muttering, "I just can't believe I had no idea!"

In any case, this is very true of -b. He is just always so quiet and polite all the time. I had only one suspicion recently when a post showed up on this site that I had not submitted.

That was my, "Aha!" only to be followed by my standard, "I just can't believe I had no idea" thought.

Mary put me in the know, but then I started to get paranoid (unrelated to my genetic disorder as I was not in the midst of an attack), and I started wondering if indeed Mary was not one of -b's personalities!! and… "Aha! I just can't believe I had no idea!!"

I mean, we see Mary, she is typically in the front of the ride with -b in the back, and I know Mary does a lot with some truly amazing trick photography on the ARC website.

But really. I mean we never see them together, so is it possible that they are in truth: only one of b's reality and just a trick photo?

Are they like the Matrix, and we choose to be in blissful oblivion that they are indeed two separate entities, but they are in actuallity only one person with many multiple personalities that have actually been able to take on corporal existsance as two people in order to fool all of us when they need to and it suits their needs?

I mean, think about this with me Toe Clip Guy. If this is the case, -b may not have a powermeter, but his alter personality Mary does, so your plan would still work… I am in!

To infinity and beyond, powermeter - shazam!

 -b quiet and polite? Here, you'd better take this blue pill.

BTW: Am I correct that the weather up there is frightful?

Editor's Note: Apparently, Lauren is fucking with us, because we can't find a single post this year which was not hers… well, maybe not her direct post, but at the very least stolen from her private e-mail.

SlamCrank's Interjection: The blue pill should take care of it.

 
26933/26/2008 4:25:00 PMHilly
Billy
Is that a sniper? That depends on what your definition of 'is' is. 
26923/26/2008 4:08:00 PMBonerfi… you know it's me… Download KimBusted again! I'll get back to my cubicle. ddoT, feel better and thanks.

 Certified and tested.

 
26913/26/2008 3:36:00 PMddoTSounds good, if I go. Still feeling crappy.

 Certified.

 
26903/26/2008 2:11:00 PMThe Real Download KimddoT, did you find a home yet for the Armstrong read???

If not, can I grab it from you when I see you Sunday?

 We checked the IP#, and this is in fact the bonerfide Download Kim. 
26893/26/2008 1:45:00 PMSlingShotMary let me borrow her watt meter.   
26883/26/2008 1:45:00 PMSlingShotWell, I am fat, but turns out I'm not so strong.

 How do you know that?

 
26873/26/2008 1:43:00 PMSlingShotI almost forgot, there's one other thing. A watt meter allows me to show that I am not a total loser, I am just strong but fat.

 So is that true?

 
26863/26/2008 1:27:00 PMMaia
Watts
Speaking of me, now that you went and got all this watt meter nonsense started, you had better come up with a definitive statement regarding their use.

 Ok. There is almost no single aspect of cycling performance that can be accomplished with a watt meter which cannot be equally accomplished using a Heart Rate monitor.

The major advantage is that the watt meter reports status more quickly. That makes them very helpful in situations such as when I say to the Widder, "Mary, you are overworking," and she responds, "No I am not," I can merely ask, "What does your watt meter say?" instead of trying to explain that 14 miles an hour into a 40 mile an hour headwind is harder than 24 miles an hour into no wind. Also, drafting somebody at 24 miles an hour can be as easy as a warmup.

The one other situation where a watt meter helps is showing how hills can easily be practiced on the flats, becauses watts is watts is watts.

If you have a .2 of a mile hill, you can practice it on the flat by measuring your time to the top and checking your average watts to accomplish it. Then you can practice that hill on the flat by doing an interval for that length and at the appropriate wattage. The only difference is you will go more than .2 of a mile on the flat.

You can then work until you can accomplish the given time at a higher wattage, go back to the hill, and find you can now get up the hill faster.

This is only significant for helping a total moron get the concept. On the other hand, anybody with a brain can do the same thing using a HR monitor. Or they could just practice sprints for the same time as the hill requires.

In general, triathletes are not so confused over this issue, because they are not allowed to draft so are not pulled into situations where the people they are drafting are purposely trying to fuck up their performance.

 
26853/26/2008 1:17:00 PMToe Clip GuyLauren, Lauren, Lauren, did you really think "B" was all there? For as strong an athlete as you are, your naiveté concerns me.

But I do like your idea to jump one of his various personas for his Powertap.

I got an idea. On the hump, you let one of him ride your wheel, then you break, and I follow to push him along, because he might not know what's going on. We drop him, set up an ambush, and take the meter. He won't know what hit him.

He'll forget what happened, buy another, and we do it again a week later. We'll each have our Powertaps. It'll be like taking candy from a baby.

The fact I'm writing this here doesn't matter as he would read it today, and forget everthing by Opening Day!

 Hehehee… are you guys going to be disappointed. You seem to have missed the fact that I myself have no powermeter, and the Widder is far too nasty for you to fuck with.

If I might suggest: Chester Pete also has one. If you beat him on Ridgebury he has a tendancy to throw stuff like that into the woods. Maybe you could try that. If it breaks from being thrown, you can always sell it to Dr. Art on Ebay.

What was I saying?

 
26843/26/2008 1:00:00 PMMichellie JonesS-C-A-R-Y Tell us about it. I think I forgot to mention Maia Watts. 
26833/26/2008 12:13:00 PMLauren
Warren
Get outa’ town… SlamCrank, CaliperGirl, and JO are all -b ????!!!!

How is it that I feel like I did when I found out that Santa Claus wasn’t a real person?

I, I need a moment to myself here to process all of this. That means… Oh my gosh, that means -b has multiple personalities??

Oh, Mary, I am so sorry. So that is why the site was started, to give all of them an outlet. Do they all have their own bikes as well—with powermeters?

If they do, right now I am trying to figure out a way to cure one of the personalities and get their powermeter, because they won’t need it if they don’t exist ;).

I know some very good therapists.

Wow, I am still in shock. I feel terrible that I laughed at most of the comments posted by them, terrible that I was laughing at -b’s unfortunate circumstance without knowing the truth.

Mary, YOU are the real Angel for setting me straight (Yes, though I am not, I do use this word every now and then.) on this!

~L

 Nice early morning e-mail. If you think it was strange finding out those three people were -b, just wait till you check the ChatterBox and read post #2678 along with its companion posts #2679, 80, 81 and get little more of an overview.

 
26813/26/2008 9:02:00 AMLauren
Warren
Anything else?

 Yeah.

I copy edit everything that people post. Sometimes I make it better, but usually I fuck it up so bad the person posting hardly even recognizes it themselves when they read it later.

 
26803/26/2008 8:54:00 AMDownload KimAnd you probably think this is me.

 No I don't.

 
26793/26/2008 8:53:00 AMSlamCrankEver since Download Kim actually filled out a membership form, you think you are so cool!

 Why not?

 
26783/26/2008 8:38:00 AMARC Staff

Special Open Letter

The ARC Staff has received a query over a secure channel from Lauren Warren asking for photos of SlamCrank among others.

Certain realities about the ARC website were sent back to her privately, but since the question arose, it points out the possibility there may be other people reading this website who have never been made privy to the truth, so it bears repeating some of them once again.

Part of what was reported to Lauren is that the following people are generally all SlingShot:

   SlamCrank
   CaliperGirl
   JO
   Sarah Cyclist
   Neo
   Connie Sewar
   Stoned Stoner
   Spoke Poker
   Smarty Watts
   Scooter Man
   Pedal Punker
   Slam Pappy Skrodum Skradger
   Scram Slacken Furder
   Car Bone
   Gargantu Chamois
   SlimChimp
   Balaclava
   Stephen Coldbear

At least those are names SlingShot has used this year so far. Others are actually people who exist but may or may not have ever posted here, or may have posted sometimes and had their names used by all the others (and/or SlamCrank) at some time or another, or not.

SlingShot used to keep close watch on who was posting what, and whose IP# was whose, but he no longer does that, because he has decided he would rather have a life.

In fact, he used to handle most of the Photoshop duties, but has recently turned that over to the Widder to keep her busy, and to help teach her how to use imaging software.

She has those privileges removed when she shows herself not worthy.

Otherwise, she has promised SlingShot he may shut this site down now that she herself realizes it is a total waste of his and everybody elses time. At least that is what she promised.

Currently it is assumed (rightly so) that maybe 3 or 4 people actually read this website. Two of them will post.

Therefore, this site should be considered a poorly written novel based on fiction; and, despite the Widder's Hump info being actual training notes (for SlingShot's amusement only), the entire site should be recognized as a total waste of one's time, and preference should be given to running, swimming, and cycling outdoors.

 You probably should have mentioned the ARC Staff is also SlingShot and that most people probably think Lauren Warren is as likely to have posted here as Lance Armstrong.

 
26773/26/2008 12:59:00 AMddoTEnough already. Watts schmatts.

You get your asses up here and ride uphill into this 30 degree sleet'n snow'n shit'n ass freez'n fuckin' rain bullshit and check your Powertap then.

Here, I'll write your first line: "This piece of shit watt meter must only work in Floriduh!"

Don't forget to bring the sun with you. I'm tired of icicles on my bicycles!

 Your kind invitation is greatly appreciated, but we must respectfully decline.

However, we will take your suggestion to double check the functioning of our watt meters.

Thank you for writing.

 
26763/25/2008 10:59:00 PMJOI am afraid you have done it again.

 Mary threw my back out with hard intervals day before yesterday. I'm having a hard time thinking straight through all the lightening bolts of pain.

 
26753/25/2008 10:57:00 PMJODid Lauren miss the part about the watt meters where Mary is pulling 300 watts uphill, but SlingShot is pulling over 600 watts just to get dropped by her?

 No. Lauren is just pointing out that by staying on Mary's big heavy butt, she will be able to calculate her own watts by minusing 50.

 
26743/25/2008 6:16:00 PMLugie AngelThank you, Toeclip, you are so sweet.

Do you want to buy some good IV glucose? It's only sticky if you don't get the needle in just right… once you get past the coma monitoring phase you're good to go for some time.

I'm jonesing for a meter………………. allright, Mary will just have to agree to be my personal Powermeter on the road, I will try to stay on her wheel this season as much as possible.

Hey, Mary, age is just a number. Heck they tossed my 42 around like it was nothin' and I am only 41!

Not to mention, it is so fun to see you whoop some good derrier's out there—when I get the rare opportunity to see you ride ;).

 I knew Toeclip would cause trouble with that sort of talk, but it looks like I caused the most trouble.

My response to you about Mary being 54 was meant for ddoT. For some reason I thought your second post was his.

Read it again and pretend you are ddoT. Makes more sense that way doesn't it? Well, it will to him.

In any case, now Mary is all pissed off, because you were nice to her.

She said, "How dare she be sweet, and talk to me like she wouldn't have to be on her last Porphyria attack in order to ride slow enough to stay behind me! Who the hell does she think she is. Now I'm going to have to kick her ass twice and teach her some respect for her elders."

She went on, "Tell her she's right. Age is just a number… until you reach 53, then it's your age."

I have to be more careful with regard to who I am trash talking how.

 
26733/25/2008 5:47:00 PMToe Clip GuyWhen I said I was gonna replace my 20 year old steel frame bike, that was about 3 yrs before I actually did.

Now I say I'm definitely going power, it's just a matter of when.

I'm pretty sure it's not gonna take three years for this cheap poor ass bastard to dive in.

Did somebody say home equity loan?

BTW: I saw the Montell Williams segment on famous triathletes with mysterious things going on.

I'm truly happy Lauren found a doctor who knew what was going on. I wish her well, and good luck with her events this year.

 When I hung my bike up on the wall and said, "I'm not riding that until I'm under 180 pounds," it only took me 4 years to do it, and it was so much fun I decided to start all over and do it again.

As for your little study hall note to Lauren: Yuck. You keep saying things like that, and people (besides Cranky) are going to start calling you sweet.

 
26723/25/2008 4:51:00 PMSlamCrankI just saw Lauren Warren on Montel, and now I see why you all call her The Angel. Hi, SlamCrank, this is the ARC Staff.

We have to answer this for you, because SlingShot is in jail.

Last night after he saw the photos on the Discovery Health Channel of Lauren when she was 12 years old, he went straight over to the local police department and turned himself in.

The cop at the front desk said, "But you haven't done anything."

"I would have. Just put me in a cell till I get over it."

We can't say when SlingShot will be out of jail, because we did some research and found out people generally never get over Lauren.

In fact the Widder herself is bawling like a big baby after she saw the Montel episode. Partly because Lauren almost lost it thanking Dr. Marshall, but mostly because she is still going to have to kick her ass.

The only happy note here is that no way is Widder going to kick Lauren's ass. Never did. Never will.

 
26713/25/2008 4:45:00 PMLugie AngelHmmm… Dog only has 3 legs so not real saleable.

The truck is 20 years old. Although it is a Toyota with only 300,000 miles on it—so in a sense pretty new.

Maybe if I repeat, "There's no place like Powertap, there's no place like Powertap, there's no place like Powertap."

Fhhh… nuthin' yet. I thought for sure that would make it happen.

I don't give up easily…

 This is all Toe Clip's fault for pretending he was going to get one. Look, he ain't that hard to beat anyway, and the Widder is 54 years old for god's sake. Who cares if she beats you?

 
26703/25/2008 4:40:00 PMLugie AngelOk., ok. all this talk about what the power meter can do, and I have just put a bunch of my IV glucose bags on Ebay to try and get some funds to get one.

I even advertised the first one as "free," but after that you have to pay.

Hmmmm… I can only ride the bike if I remain attack free, so maybe I shouldn't give up too much of my IV bag stash, and my birthday is still too far away… we don't own the house outright yet… I will figure this out, give me time.

 Kudos for the fine sports drinks promotion on Discovery Health.

Don't give up on the Ebay sales yet. Once people hear what the IV's have been doing for your performance, there sure to go for big bucks.

Ironically, when the Widder heard that Toe Clip was getting a meter she complained, "I don't think I want him to get one," but when she heard Lauren would be trading her IV's for one (thus not riding), she said, "Absolutely. Luaren really needs a watt meter. She should do whatever it takes to get one. In fact, I'll shred her bike for her, so she can sell it as scrap metal."

 
26693/25/2008 3:23:00 PMToe Clip GuyThanks for the feedback on the Powertap. I'll be getting it but maybe not on this go around, until I know I can can have it built up quickly.

In due time.

 My suggestion is to mortgage the house, sell the dog, and get it today. Life is short, and spring is shorter.

 
26683/25/2008 12:25:00 PMARC StaffOk, Toe Clip, your response about the watt meter is all edited and ready to read.

 He probably already read it while I was writing it.

 
26673/25/2008 12:01:00 PMJODo I see correctly: Lauren Warren is going to be on Montel Williams in the next hour?

 Yes. Probably she and Michelle are going to have a cat fight over which one of them is the true Schmoopie.

 
26663/25/2008 11:53:00 AMToe Clip GuyOff on a tangent guys but I just got an opportunity to get the powertap SL (wired or wireless) at a tremendous discount. I need to make the decision by the 31st. So I gotta put this question out there: Does it make sense to put it on the Bontrager X Lite wheel?

And if anyone does have it on this wheel, did you notice any appreciable difference in ride, weight, etc…?

Any feedback, both positive and negative highly appreciated.

Thanks.

 Congratulations! The watt meter is going to change your life!!!

We purchased Mary's PowerTap (wireless) on the cheapest wheel offered. The Mavic Pro.

At the time, I couldn't find anybody who knew anything about it, so we weren't going to risk spending more for nothing until we knew it worked.

You will take a hit in speed anyway, so it's unclear if a high-end wheel would be able to make up the difference.

However, the information about your ride (that a watt meter provides) will outweigh the negative.

In Landis' book (kindly suggested by ddoT) he talks about using the Powertap in competition, so at least he finds the information well worth the slow down.

Our own plan is to reward me with my own power meter when the Widder reaches her interim goal of a 22+ time trialed Hump.

I will inherit her current meter and wheel, and she will get a new one with an all out wheel for her 23+ attempts.

It is still unclear how much slower the watt meter makes her, because the precision of the workouts has made her finally strong enough for me to be hurting on the flats behind her. Never happened before.

Not to mention, her average speeds are already about 1 to 2 miles faster for this time of year than ever before.

There is no doubt about the watt meter wheel being slower. We have both swapped it out, and both agree it is significant enough to be easily felt. My heart rate goes up about 20 beats for the same speed in warmup.

The absolute certain choice will be the wireless though. It reads the wheel from at least 50 yards away. I can put it on my own bike and read her wattages to keep track and prompt her during sprints, pacework, etc.

If you get the wireless, you will afford yourself the opportunity to put the wheel on somebody elses bike and help them learn how to use it.

You are studying to do that sort of thing, right?

 
26653/25/2008 11:55:00 AMLauren
Warren
Hey Mary,

Finally, a chance to get to my e-mail… forget the show… I can’t believe you almost ran over a Rattlesnake!!!

Way to keep goin’. With the watts you have been spinnin’ that snake didn’t stand a chance! I bet all that was left of him/her was the skin!

B went back to look at it?? Does he know they get pretty (hiss)pissy when messed with, and that the air conditioning you created as you flew by certainly would be a causative strike factor?

I guess you both lived to tell the “tail” ;).

When all is said and done, I wish I would have been there to witness it!

As for the illness turning me: You know I never thought of it… red to purple pee, lavender being the “Lebanese” flag color and all, well heck maybe there is a connection.

After all, it did take them 28 years to diagnose me, and I did have my first female crush on my art teacher at the age of… Heya, I think everyone is on to something here.

O.K. Now you know the real reason I only do the glucose IV treatment and not the Panhematin IV treatment… I kind of like being Lebanese ;). I really hope this doesn’t mean I have to ride the back of the bike train from now on - rats.

When are you both heading to balmy NY again? We are eagerly waiting for both you and Michele’s parents return to bring the warm weather with you : )

 Turns out an episode with a watersnake in Harriman last summer probably saved my life.

The rattlesnake was laying very flat on the trail, stretched out almost straight, maybe warming itself but in a shadow—so not getting too warm.

Its neck and head looked as if it were broken, so I thought maybe somebody had ridden over it, and it was dead.

Then I noticed it's head was carefully tracking my movement, and I remembered the watersnake from last summer which was doing exactly the same thing, looked exactly the same way, and had me and Chuckie both fooled into thinking it was almost dead.

When I started to move it off the road with my bike wheel, it came alive and started striking at my tire.

With the rattlesnake I figured it would do the same thing and eventually turn and leave just like the watersnake, but I decided I didn't need to give it the fame and satisfaction of being able to tell all its friends, "Yeah, I killed SlingShot. Glad I did it too!"

I left it and took off to get the Widder. I was sure she could talk me out of going back for a second look, and she did.

 
26643/25/2008 10:34:00 AMddoTTivo that for me will ya! I don't get Discovery Health Channel. This sucks.

Oh yeah, Lance Armstrong's "It's not about the bike" is also free to a good home.

 Anybody with a spare seat in their TV room, give ddoT a call. Remaining dates are:

*Mystery Diagnosis dates are:
   Sat March 29th 7:00 PM
   Mon April 21st 9:00 PM
   Sat April 26th 9:00 PM
   Sat May 3rd 2:00 PM

*The Montel William’s show:
   Tues March 25th 10:00 AM

Also, anybody who would like a second copy of Lance's book, give ddoT a call.

 
26633/25/2008 2:00:00 AMSlamCrankOk, I listened closely to her symptoms. What I don't understand is why they didn't think she was just having an attack of The Hump. That's what it sounded like to me.

 Dr. Marshall's a genius.

 
26623/25/2008 1:48:00 AMMaia
Watts
But her friend Michelle is…

 Right. A veterinarian.

 
26613/25/2008 1:46:00 AMMaia
Watts
So let me see if I understand this. The disease made Lauren, uh, well, it caused her to go, uh, well…

 No. It didn't.

 
26603/25/2008 1:38:00 AMCaliperGirlYeah, Michelle! Yeah, Michelle! 
26593/25/2008 1:22:00 AMSlamCrankWell? Where is she?

 Hold your horses. Second half hour… soon as the doctor writes a few more banjo tunes and cures that Zirra look allike.

 
26583/25/2008 12:02:00 AMJO

TONIGHT 10 PM

See Lauren Warren (Lugie, The Angel) on the Discovery Health Channel new hit series: "Cool Diseases Your Friends Never Heard Of."

Be there, or be square.

10 PM, Discovery Channel, Tonight.

 Good. Maybe now we'll get a chance to see what she looks like from the front, instead of from behind as she disappears off into the distance.

 
26573/24/2008 6:34:00 PMddoTI got the 2nd edition of the Friel book as a gift, so I no longer need the first edition.

 Good idea.

Hey, everybody, ddoT is offering to slow you down with outdated information.

 
26563/24/2008 4:42:00 PMddoTFree to good home- Positively False by Floyd Landis and The Triathletes Training Bible by Joe Friel.

Let me know if anybody wants one or both.

 I'd hang onto the Friel book if I were you, unless the extended discussion of long training naps (such as found in his cycling book) is missing.

 
26553/23/2008 11:08:00 PMSlingShot

Focus

Widder's concentration peaked on our ride this afternoon.

I had devised a unique way to help her focus by using a workaround I came up with for one of the watt meter's limitations.

However, my clever little technique could only account for a small part of the unwavering attention she showed today.

When I signaled, "There's a snake," she barely even flinched and only asked, "Huh," before I answered, "Just a little garter snake."

Then a few miles later when she chirped, "Snake," as her wheel passed a couple inches from its head, there wasn't even the slightest break in her pace when I blurted, "A rattlesnake. I'm going back to look."

Not only did she not slow down, it was almost as if she got going a little faster.

What focus.

 You say she kept her pace? Even a little faster? She's good!

 
26543/23/2008 3:35:00 PMLauren
Warren
Hey B and Mary : )

Happy Easter!!! I hope you have both gotten your riding in for the day. I rode for 4 hours yesterday and then ran : ) Felt good, especially since I was finally recovered from a week long Porphyria attack – bleck :*(.

Back into the swing of things now, no time to waste making up the time… as usual. Mary I am totally rooting for you with your Hump ride goal… as they say in Ironman… you will do this.

I look forward to you kicking my butt all over the course this year ;).

Below are the television dates for both shows I will be on, they are airing this coming week. In case you have nothing else to do… ;).

Peace,

Lauren

*Mystery Diagnosis dates are:
   Mon March 24th 10:00 PM
   Sat March 29th 7:00 PM
   Mon April 21st 9:00 PM
   Sat April 26th 9:00 PM
   Sat May 3rd 2:00 PM

*The Montel William’s show:
   Tues March 25th 10:00 AM

Mystery Diagnosis is on Discovery.

 Most of you only know Lauren as The Angel, Lugie, or that bitch who beats you.

Turns out the only thing that might surpass her fame for fitness, is her fame for sickness.

She's got it all!

That's enough ARC for today.

We are going out for 13 x 260 watt 50 second intervals. I plan to puke sometime after the 7th.

 
26533/23/2008 3:29:00 PMddotI did go up shlepers, and one of the gsp's got the snot rocket! Nah, actually they had shock collars and were well behaved. They look like hunting dogs. That's a nice little hill though right? That hill hurt some people on the country roads ride if I remember correctly.   
26523/23/2008 2:19:00 PMZirraHey You,

I have been out of the Central Valley loop for awhile, but I am planning on doing the Farmlands Century this year—if Bob is planning on it.

I have been getting my training in, while Corlynn and I had a baby girl on Dec 6th. It is a blast with the Little Zirra. She is healthy, happy, smiles, and does all the stuff babies do.

How have you guys been? Florida treating you well?

I see your power files on ARC—looking to do some damage this year? I have been training on an SRM for about a year now, and it makes all the difference in the world.

I look forward to riding together soon, maybe one of the afternoon rides at Harriman? Let me know when you start the parking lot rides again.

Best

Kevin

 I do what Nuclear Dan and BLASTER tell me to do, and nobody has said Farmlands is not happening this year, so I guess it is.

Congratulations on the daughter. Looks like you'll have some extra time to ride, because having kids is so easy and takes up so little time. All you have to do is make sure she never ever never sees the ARC website—or anything like it.

If you would just give us some of your specs for wattage vs. speed, we promise to use it against you.

Maybe you could phrase it something like this, "Holy shit. I squat with 1000 lbs. That works out to stomping 500 lbs. per leg. My watt meter just reported 2700 watts. So why am I walking up this hill, and the Widder has disappeared over the top?"

You know, something like that. We'd like to compare it to our own results, so we can see how closely the three systems (SRM /Powertap /Computrainer) report watts.

The Harriman rides are already in full bloom.

 
26513/23/2008 1:51:00 PMddoTWilliam Lane Road.

 YEAH!!! I win again.

Don't forget to check out Schefflers Road. It's one of my favorites, and there are three GSP's near the top on the right. Also Widder says there's a Great Dane up there.

People call it, "Schlepers Road."

 
26503/23/2008 1:40:00 PMPCPNo news is good news.

 Good news is no news.

 
26493/23/2008 1:17:00 PMToe Clip GuySorry to hear you had to hear bad news so early on a Sunday morning.

May I be so forward as to ask why you would even listen to the news early in the morning? I mean, you get up to train (that's a positive), to make love to the wifey (that's a great positive), to eat (also a positive until you reach for the doughnuts), but to listen to the morning news?

Was sa matter con you, man?

 I fucked up.

 
26483/23/2008 12:46:00 PMARC Staff

Sunday School

This morning a news story was seen on the national TV about a couple who got snarred by a mortgage scam, even after they refused to sign up for it.

SlingShot got all bent out of shape thinking, "How could they be so stupid as to answer their fucking phone in the first place?"

In the hopes of helping people avoid such scams, it is time we published the American Road Cycling Rules to Live By:

1) If somebody tells you that you are doing God's work, you are not.

2) If somebody tells you that by receiving your vote they are looking out for your best interest, they are not.

3) If SlingShot tells you he is going to kick your ass, give up without even trying.

 You think that's gonna help?

 
26463/23/2008 11:59:00 AMARC StaffdoTT, a question has come up. Did you mean the hill on Schefflers Road or William Lain Road? >>>

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26453/22/2008 11:34:00 PMddoTWhy do dogs only chase you when you're going UPHILL???

Anybody know what the distance record for an early season, partly frozen snot-rocket is? I swear I shot one about 25 ft. today and took a German Shorthair right off his feet.

At the Camel Farm, if you hook a right (instead of bearing left as on the Hump route), you go up a pretty steep climb. Just after getting over the top, I was watching a woman on my left clean her yard with an enormous pooper scooper. Then, I heard the sound of claws on pavement to my right. I looked over, and I was eye to eye with a fucking Great Dane!

Luckily he could see my low body fat percentage, so he didn't bother to bite my femur off, knowing I would taste like shit. True story. I actually almost pissed my pants. Big fuckin dog!

 1) It is my fault that dogs chase uphills only. I have trained them to believe it's easy to pick up a slice of extra fatty meat, if they just let the herd pass then wait long enough for the last in line to show up.

2) Sounds like an ice booger record, but you'll have to submit its weight and volume specs, so I can plug them into the watts vs. distance formulas. Also, you will need a witness. Did it put anybody's eye out?

3) Are you sure the woman was not cleaning her yard with a lugie scooper? I have heard the woods are alive with solid state hock rockets this time of year, so people spend a lot of time cleaning up the mucus muffins.

4) Are you sure your Great Dane was using his ocular, and not his olfactory, senses? I don't know if Great Dane's are sight hounds, but I do know that a blood hound would be dissuaded off your trail in less than a sniffle.

BTW: Everybody be careful about pissing your pants. Chester Pete narrowly missed having "sex offender" tacked onto his permanent record when a Goshen cop caught him coming back onto the Heritage Trail after he had pulled aside for an old man's prostate induced desperately necessary nature break.

 
26443/22/2008 11:29:00 PMPalletmanGo to bed SlamCrank. Everyone knows it's past your bed time. Talk to you in the am.

 ZZzzz…

 
26433/22/2008 11:30:00 PMSlamCrankI'm sick of this "every post is #500" shit. Would you fix it already.

 Done.

 
26423/22/2008 11:17:00 PMPalletmanYou got that right. And $4,300.00 per seems cheap… by comparison.

 Very cheap.

 
26413/22/2008 11:02:00 PMPalletmanI thought the picture looked a little bit like Kristen. That's all.

 These days all us guys think everything looks like Kristen.

 
26403/22/2008 10:54:00 PMPalletmanBased on post #2637 you are ready to come home. Why wait till 3/31/08. Pack up and head home now, so we can kick both your sorry asses. It will make everyone feel better about themselves.

 You do seem to be faster than I remember. As soon as I posted the photo with #2639, I said to the Widder, "Well, Palletman should post in about 15 seconds."

You did it in 8. Have you been practicing on bulls?

 
26393/22/2008 10:46:00 PMJOYou keep talking about Mary not being able to push down on her feet because of bunions but that she compensates by pulling up with her hamstrings. Are you certain about that?

 Here's the raw data after today's ride. Decide for yourself. >>>

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26383/22/2008 6:35:00 PMddoTJust remember that most of the asshole drivers down there migrate back here with you guys when it gets warm, so you get em' year round.

 I knew there was something familiar about it.

 
26373/22/2008 5:29:00 PMSlingShot

Road Cycling Rage

It's a drought, so the afternoon rain was delayed an hour today.

That was just enough time to loop up over the Clearwater Bridge and back, but we had to hurry.

I took over the pull early, because the Widder had a hard test ride yesterday, and she will have another hard ride tomorrow.

I just have to keep grinding away grams of fat, so I'm allowed to work as too much as I like.

I knew the signal light we were approaching was short, so when it turned red I never stopped working, and it turned green long before we got to it.

Timed it perfect.

Except by the time we got there a line of cars was lined up facing us in the left turn lane, all chomping at the bit to cut across our path.

I made eye contact, and it was clear the lead car would wait, but there was also a line of cars sitting at the red light to our perpendicular right.

We were in a bike lane with clear right of way.

The first car from the right jumped and got through with plenty of time to avoid us, but the second car followed them without even looking.

I had just enough time to pull almost into the oncoming traffic, and squeezed past screaming, "Hey, wake up!"

I did calm down once I realized there was a whole foot and a half between the car's front left fender and the oncoming cars.

I took one final look at the driver on his phone and popped through the open road slot like I was doing something rational.

The driver never even saw me until the Widder started her own screaming in his ear as she followed my lead to thread the needle.

About a quarter mile later, the guy pulls up beside me with his window down, and I surprise myself by having lots of breathe left for more screaming, "Get off your fucking phone, and pay attention."

He shouts back, "I was just trying to apologize…"

So I give him the thumbs up and nodded just as he finished, "Get back on the sidewalk!" and sped off.

Apparently our intervals have been good for my aerobic capacity, because Mary said she heard me a quarter mile back as I raised the American Road Cycling salute and shouted, "FUCK YOU… YOU MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLE!"

Later on our way home, some drunken shithead going the other way yelled across a divide, "Stay on the sidewalk!"

I guess it proves the most important part of "Floriduh" is the "DUH."

This backwards cracker-ass state of red-neck pecker heads is currently working on getting rid of the teaching of evolution in the scools.

You can't really blame them, because there is so much obvious evidence around them that natural selection couldn't possibly be true.

If it were true, none of these dip-shit fuck buckets would have made the cut for stupidity.

No wonder they spent so much time trying to decide if the brain dead Terry Schiavo was regular or not.

 Was there a point in there somewhere?

 
26363/22/2008 8:45:00 AMCaliperGirlYou fat, fat… fat fuck!    
26353/22/2008 8:43:00 AMSlamCrankAnd just what is that job? Stealing lines from Curb Your Enthusiasm?

 More or less.

 
26343/22/2008 8:41:00 AMJOSlingShot, you fat, fat… fat fuck!

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26333/22/2008 12:27:00 AMJOThis just in.

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26323/21/2008 1:39:00 AMSlingShot

The Full Imus

Well, boys and girls, it's happening again. It's in full bloom, and there's not a damn thing to be done about it.

By my being so lax as to allow any single TV channel to remain on for more than a half second, I have already seen seven or eight hundred instances where Obama was mischaracterized, misquoted, or even totally ignored as reporters and pundits continue their own narrative unabated, without the slightest concern over what he has actually said, meant, or thought.

Earlier today I turned around and caught the Widder staring at the TV with a slack look of horror. She said only, "I can't believe it."

I can.

I hate myself for not having the restraint to refrain from yelping about it, but it's my own fault for forgetting not to listen to any of it and trying to track down his actual statements, or watching as much of the whole mess as I have, in the hopes of, well... not hopes I guess, but just to see.

For a moment I thought, "Well, noboby's going to be able to say anything about that. It's just clear logic."

I would write a lot more, but I'm too depressed seeing another person receiving the Full Imus.

 

GOD DAMN AMERICA!

 
26313/20/2008 3:27:00 PMG. DougB - Just wanted you to know, it is not Lance. I am not training for a marathon and dislike running as the bike gets you there faster.

Also, rumor has it you can pull those 260 watts now. So you win the leader of the pack title come opening day in April.

 Ok, Lance. Just because you have a pretty good reputation in the industry that doesn't mean you are allowed to go around pretending to be General G. Douglas Allen. There are limits.

As for my pulling watts, when one has a forward profile measured in square meters, 260 watts don't buy you much. In any case, I only wish I could go below 450 watts on even the slightest rises, so I'll be more than happy to reclaim my perch on the real Doug's wheel.

BTW: Sorry to hear that you finally found out about the Hump and now realize your 7 Tour de France wins are comparatively meaningless.

 
26303/20/2008 12:28:00 PMddoTLooks like the sun will make an appearance here next Wednesday. Itching to ride on my new Conti's.

 Try Tinactin.

 
26293/20/2008 11:57:00 AMARC StaffYo, CHUCKIE! If you wander in from the woods looking for beef jerkey and stuff, and you happen upon this post, give us a hoot.

When we get back to NY we begin the American Road Cycling Humpadetic Survey.

Our guess is that you will have an opinion on the perfect altimeter to match our needs.

 What makes you think Chuckie ain't dead?

 
26283/20/2008 12:36:00 AMDougRumor has it that B is 20 Lbs lighter and can now take extended pulls on front of the pace line. Cannot wait to enjoy sitting behind B for a change.

 Nice plan. Unfortunately, not only have I taken off 20 lbs so far, but we also purchased a watt meter to help prepare Mary for her 23+ Widder's Hump.

Therefore, I have enough solid data to be fully aware that I am still 35 lbs above the weight that I was when I still had to log a 1 Hour World Record wattage just to get dropped by you guys on any hill longer than a football field. So it is unlikely you will see me pulling anytime soon.

Not to worry, though. I have been training the Widder to pull me for my own personal best Hump.

BTW: Although I don't bother reviewing the web usage logs for ARC anymore, I couldn't resist checking to see if you could possibly be Doug, so I checked my old notes for your IP#.

Turns out you are UV #91, an IP# that is registered to Ameritech in Plano, TX.

Quit fucking with us Lance, and get back outside working on your marathon splits.

For everbody else: guess what today is? >>>

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26273/19/2008 9:59:00 PMTurtle
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Nice legs. Are they Mary's or Bob's?

 They're mine, but Mary wears them.

 
26263/19/2008 4:14:00 PMSlamCrankJEEESUUS! Spitzer, eat your heart out!!! I bet that cost a lot more than $4,300 dollars.

 You have no idea.

 
26253/19/2008 3:35:00 PMPalletmanThat's no girl! That's 100% woman! Can't wait to see the rest of the tan lines on April 1st!

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26243/19/2008 3:32:00 PMSlamCrankOh, that's real nice. Couldn't you have come up with some advice for Louie?

 I guess you are right. That was pretty rude. Here you go, Louie: next time choose your students more carefully. >>>

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26233/19/2008 1:46:00 PMLouieThat's it. I've had it.

I pour my very life's blood and passion into those people trying to make them faster. I give them state of the art spin aerobics, my own special cycling specific strength exercises, not to mention little tricks like the one Cranky used to kick SlingShot's ass on Demarest Road last year. I do all that, and how am I repaid?

They throw it all away on doughnuts!

 If you think that's strange, try and figure this one out... and stop pouring your passion into Cranky. >>>

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26223/19/2008 12:37:00 PMToe Clip GuyThe founder of Trek is dead.

What does the wizzard of ARC have to say about that?

 Apparently, the Bicycle Doctor isn't.

Buy one now. Life is short.

 
26213/19/2008 11:37:00 AMddoTAnd don't forget to bring back the sun!

 Widder! Don't forget to pack the sun… no, not today. Today I'm using it.

 
26203/19/2008 11:23:00 AMPCPThe fix is simple - get back up here and help me eat all these doughnuts!!!

 Can't help you out there. I am now down 20 lbs for the year. For you that means this: first time you see me you are going to realize I look exactly like I did last year when you said to yourself, 'What a fat fuck SlingShot has become," and Turtle Boy was saying to others, "Have you seen Bob? He looks like he has put on another half pound every time I see him."

 
26193/18/2008 11:42:00 PMPCPSlingshot, I may be one of the fallen that you can beat. Consider me officially UP 6 lbs. That said, I'll take a share of #500 with a doughnut on the side.

 Dear Client #500, please allow me to give you the sternest warning that I can.

If you look around you, you will see the empty husks and broken psyches of numerous unfortunates who have let themselves fall to such a low state that I have beaten them. Let me tell you the repurcusions of being beaten by me are horrid indeed. The feeling of self loathing and disgust can be overwhelming. Here, let me give you a taste:

Actually, #500, you are not at all fallen, for I have never NOT been able to kick your loser ass.

See? You might want to take off the weight. You've got two weeks.

 
26183/18/2008 1:07:00 PMToe Clip GuyStop messing with the guy. He got number 500.

Anyway, O Bama should've played his cards better. Rallying both the Nation of Islam and the Church of the Victim Christians to get him the right connects. And then distancing himself when it was time. He blew it. His game is now done. Perhaps he can take up cycling and meet us all down in: BROOKLYN!!!!

… of course I need to get my training back on track, but that's another story.

 There. Now we are all #500. Does that make you happy?

In any case, HAVE YOU LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND? Do you really want Old Bama showing up in Brooklyn? Maybe you haven't noticed, but the guy is not a fat ass like SlingShot, nor does he appear to be a total fucking moutain bike loser like your current Pres.

You'd better try to focus, you are starting to sound like Turtle Boy with all your whining about being out of shape. But don't worry about it, your salvation is coming.

I may pull myself out of retirement just for the pleasure of setting you straight.

I have personally been responsible for more renewed programs and fancy bikes purchased than probably anybody else on the planet.

I have lost count of the number of people who have finally fallen into bad enough shape for me to beat.

None of them ever got that bad off again.

I have been told that one of the people I beat for the final sprint and win of the Tour de American Road Cycling last Thanksgiving Day is currently 10 lbs lighter than ever, and they've started pretending to race.

Otherwise, I wish I had a nickle for every new bike that was bought the week after I beat somebody on the Hump. Everybody knows the bottom of the barrel when they hit it, and it sounds like your turn is coming.

In fact, the Turtle Boy Very Excellent School of Competition Cycling and Trash Talking was itself begun a couple years ago the very week after I heard this (on the long climb left after Heart Attack Hill), "Shit, it's come to this? I'm riding in the back with Bob and the women. Fuck, me. I better get in shape!"

PS: Sorry for asking about your losing your fucking mind, but I forgot that you want EVERYBODY to show up in Brooklyn.

Here, maybe this will help you avoid therapy, if not the ass shredding you are soon to enjoy:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
26173/18/2008 12:48:00 PMddoTJust wanted to be #500   
26163/18/2008 12:17:00 PMSlingShotSorry, you just missed it.   
26143/17/2008 8:51:00 PMJOHey, SlingShot, with all your past ranting about religion, you must be pretty pleased with yourself over this hubbub about Barak Obama's preacher.

 One would think, but here’s the problem: I took a close look at the things Reverend Wright said. Surprisingly, they were all absolutely correct, so all this proves is that once in very great while somebody will actually state the truth from the pulpit, and they are unlikely to be thanked for it when they do.

 
26133/17/2008 6:03:00 PMddoTIt's almost time! Can't wait to ride with the c-minus group again!

 I was sort of thinking I might be begging the Pokers to take me in. Then I remembered I have retired from cycling.

 
26123/17/2008 1:03:00 PMCaliperGirlI read the results of yesterday's Suncoast Trail workout, and I can understand why most people are going to be worried, but what makes you think Turtle Boy gives a shit?

 Because somebody submitted this photo of Twin George taking his turn in front of the class at Turtle Boy school this winter in Portugal. >>>

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26113/17/2008 2:42:00 AMSlamCrankYou know, most coaches, trainers, and athletes consider this sort of stuff high level insider training secrets. Why are you publishing this so Mary's competition can use it against her? >>>

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26103/16/2008 1:44:00 AMJOInteresting you would post a beer photo now. Monday is Saint Patrick's Day. Who do you think is going to show up at the bar.

 The usual crowd I assume.

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26093/15/2008 8:38:00 PMDownload KimPCP - My Cyclin' Sista' !! Listen, I wouldn't worry about the extra "weight". The advantages are, it will help on the down-stroke while pedaling, and they will distract the rest of the field since 90% of them are men! While pedaling out of the saddle though, don't lean forward too far - you might end up in a heap!

 Well, there you have it, Cranky. Now you've got both the Widder and Download scared shitless and lobbying for you to add some weight to your uphill load.

But it must be good advice coming from Download, since she herself has spared no expense in acquiring the massive bazoombas of a Teutonic barmaid.

In any case, it looks like you are going to fall for it, so to the 90%: Start lining up for the Cranky heap!

Here you go boys... two handfulls!

 
26083/15/2008 12:26:00 AMddoTFor the record, Lauren finished third overall female at last years West Point Tri.

It was an AWESOME race between her and Barb Sessa (Queen Bee) for second, and a Cadet won the division.

I logged some miles on the tri bike today, and I figured that for the Widder to accomplish her feat, she will have to ride somewhere between the level of me and Levi. That's a biiiiig range!

 As for Lauren, that was last year, and this is this year. Maybe you haven't heard that Lauren was near death last year.

As for the Widder: couple years ago she posted a 21.5 on the Hump—four weeks in a row. Then she fell in with some bad influence and stopped improving. Some of the people she was riding with reported it was 22+, but I have taught her to be very conservative in her measurments.

However, she still posted a 21.2 toward the end of last year while riding mostly on her own. She is already posting times that are 2 miles an hour faster than she has ever been this time of year.

Also, she is significantly stronger and smarter now than ever. Plus, her technique has consistently improved during her already 1400+ road miles this winter. Not to mention, I can still see where she can get another 12 percent improvement in technique alone.

She will of course be well over your own level (unless you manage to take off about 80 lbs, while keeping your current strength, and seriously improving your approach, and stop running and swimming in order to dedicate all your efforts to road cycling alone), but a 23+ Hump is nowhere near the level of Levi. It is a rather modest goal… if you ignore the 54 years of age.

BTW: What was your average watts on your early season ride today? If you were referencing only to mph: was it on an ovoid course with equal uphill and downhill and a well planned wind direction where the most headwind hit you where you received the most cover from the hills and trees?

BTBTW: Never make decisions about a ride on an uphill (with regard to whether you want to quit or not), and never guage performance during your first week out after a winter off the road.

 
26073/14/2008 10:58:00 PMPCPWahoo! A visit from Download!

Download, Like ddoT says, I'm not going to be able to ride with these extra weights!

Hey they are trying to pawn you off on Client #9. You are a #1 gal!!

 Man, you are really skimming through the material now, though, you have stumbled upon the Widder's primary intent.

As for the numbering conventions, we will just have to see what Lauren Warren has to say about it at West Point.

 
26053/14/2008 7:58:00 PMDownload KimCranky - Well deserved! And I feel honored to be in such hands!

 Deserved the gold, or being oggled by Turtle Boy.

 
26043/14/2008 6:39:00 PMDownload KimWow, gold seems to be my color. Oscar winners….. here I come!

 Did you know that Cranky is a winner? In fact she has done so well, she has got Turtle Boy rethinking his sheep rental business. >>>

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26033/14/2008 6:37:00 PMSlamCrankWho is this Lauren, and how'd she get famous?

 It's a little hard to explain. >>>

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26023/14/2008 4:01:00 PMJacobawitz
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Ok, everybody back to your cubicles.

 Uh, oh. Busted.

 
26013/14/2008 3:57:00 PMSlamCrankYou guys keep talking about tri-athlons and people will start thinking anything goes here. Even mountain bikers will start showing up.

 Try not to think about it.

 
26003/14/2008 3:30:00 PMddoTDownload, Shhhh! Nobody knows we can run too. Lose the fungus, Funky feet are not fast.

I've got Lauren Warren's number this year at the West Point Tri. I know I can do it… maybe, I can. Probably not. There, I talked myself out of it.

 Who doesn't have Lauren's West Point Tri number? It is #1, and Download is golden… moss and all. >>>

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25993/14/2008 3:16:00 PMDownload KimddoT! I think you are on to something! If I eliminate the funky moss, do you think I might improve my 5K time?

   
25983/14/2008 2:31:00 PMddoTLauren Warren Kicks ass. I just like saying Lauren Warren, it's fun. Lauren Warren. I'll caption the Download Kim photo for you too: "They still think I'm hot, even though I have this funky moss like stuff growing between my toes."

 What's this? You know all the babes? Congratulations. You are now President of the Lauren Warren (aka: The Angel, Lugie, & Lugie Angel) fan club.

BTW: Don't you find it odd that we've had a run on female posters after we ran stuff about forty-three hundred dollar hookers? Apparently, we are not allowed to have any fun.

BTBTW: If you ever did beat Lauren in a tri-athlon, you could retire as an accomplished athlete.

 
25973/14/2008 2:30:00 PMSlamCrankHere's a test: In the Tampa area how many cars are allowed to run each red light? Answer: Only a dozen, but you can still hit the cyclist if you step on the gas real hard.

 Sounds about right. 
25963/14/2008 1:41:00 PMDownload KimAwareness Test - pretty scary. Even more so, the article in the Jan/Feb. issue of Bicycling titled "Broken."

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25953/14/2008 1:33:00 PMLauren
Warren
You should post this on your website.

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25943/14/2008 11:37:00 AMddoTCranky, you don't want all that dead weight when you're climbing anyway.

 Are you saying they wouldn't jiggle?

 
25933/14/2008 10:29:00 AMPCPThat answers that! I've always wondered what I'd look like well endowed!

 Oops, sorry. I published the wrong photo. It was all part of Widder's grand scheme to sucker you into getting breast augmentation in order to slow you down. Here's the real photo. Frankly, I don't see much difference. >>>

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25923/14/2008 1:45:00 AMSarah
Cyclist
I read those pop-watt and stomp exercises. They are incredible. Aren't you afraid you are giving away trade secrets by publishing this stuff?

 Not really.

I taught music for many years, and I am quite accustomed to coming up with ad hoc exercises to break through a student's misconceptions. I long ago learned what every good educator on the planet knows.

The excellence of the exercises lie in my ability to match them specifically to the student, and I can freely give away every "secret" that I have for years on end. The number of people who ever actually understand them will remain small, plus the number of people who actually do the work required to perfect them afterward will be fewer still.

People who think teachers "hold secrets," or that there is any knowledge that needs to be protected, are idiots.

 
25913/13/2008 11:37:00 PMToe Clip GuyI was starting to think of structuring transactions, until I saw the revised picture… forget about it!

 If you think that was bad… well, maybe you should check back here tomorrow; but, otherwise, I guess you are pretty lucky Widder is already in bed, and I've been working on this. >>>

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25903/13/2008 10:04:00 PMPalletmanMB, looking forward to Mallorca! You've really been working hard in Louie's spin class this winter.

 Apparently, she's not the only one. >>>

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25893/13/2008 8:03:00 PMPCPHEY, wait a minute!

 Unlikely.

 
25883/13/2008 8:01:00 PMJOLook what I found online when I googled "Ashley Alexandra Dupre"!

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25873/13/2008 3:35:00 PMCaliperGirlGuess that makes two.

 Fuck you.

 
25863/13/2008 2:49:00 PMSlamCrankFinally, somebody left the motherfucker speechless.

   
25853/13/2008 2:21:00 PMddoTI've got something you can grapple with.

   
25843/12/2008 11:33:00 PMSlamCrankHave you lost your fucking mind? Why would you let ddoT in on that little secret?

 It will be fun later, after he tries them and has to grapple with the uncomfortable feeling of indebtedness.

 
25833/12/2008 6:06:00 PMddoTAnybody have any tire (clincher) preferances or recommendations? Thanks!

 Continental Grand Prix 4000, 20 mm. This is neither a preference nor a recommendation. It is merely the tire to use. You will probably have to special order the 20 mm. Few shops stock them. You can use the 23's for workouts.

 
25823/12/2008 1:59:00 PMSlamCrankSlingShot, Unbelievable! You just managed to insult three different women by not calling them whores.

 Cool, wasn't it.

 
25813/12/2008 1:46:00 PMClient 8And just think, he was only getting the one's that I rejected. The "national scale" customers (like me) received first choice, then the "state scale" goobers like him got the rejects.

 At least they weren't sloppy.

 
25803/12/2008 1:24:00 PMClient 9I can't believe it. All of a sudden I've blown through 80 thousand dollars, and I've got nothing to show for it.

 Look, get over it. Those weren't your run of the mill hookers of the Twin Lynn or Cranky sort. They didn't even stop at the Download Kim level. Those bitches were full on Widder quality whores. At least you didn't waste money on fancy handlebars.

 
25793/12/2008 12:49:00 PMddoT45 degrees is warm, isn't it?

 Riders are out. Readers are staying in.

 
25783/12/2008 11:21:00 AMPCPTrust me. There is no warm weather here. They are all just crazy, north pole blooded obsessives. Widder, get your arm warmers out.

 …of my ass.

 
25773/12/2008 2:55:00 AMddoTAaagh, but one rider working the Greenville Tpk. from the Montague NJ, side was not seen today. Ok, it was me. Yeah, I got to ride my bike :-)

 So I guess the warm weather we sent up is working out good for you, and you will not forget our effort.

 
25763/11/2008 10:02:00 PMJOArctic Paul and about seven other riders seen in Harriman this afternoon.

 How would we know that?

 
25753/11/2008 3:44:00 PMBig
Bianchi
Now I'm worried. Does all this mean that I'm in trouble for my involvement in that Portugues sheep leasing ring?

 I'd be quiet if I were you.

 
25743/11/2008 11:18:00 AMSlamCrankWhy are you so pissed off over the Eliot Sptizer nonsense, after you gave a pass to Marion Jones? Is it because you hate sex more than drugs? What's next on your hit list? Rock and roll?

 Marion Jones was just a kid who fell in with a bad bunch of people (sports promoters) when she was young and impressionable. Also, she only wrote bad checks. She didn't pretend to own the bank. But most of all, she had not based her whole career on sending people to jail for cheating in the broad jump.

 
25733/11/2008 2:14:00 AMJOYou're kidding me, right? 169 rpm?

 No joke. It happened. >>>

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25713/10/2008 11:38:00 AMSlamCrankNow what?

 I don't know what to say.

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25703/10/2008 3:03:00 AMCaliperGirlOk, this Widder Photoshop crap has been mildly amusing, but what happens when she runs out of stuff to steal off the web?

 It's a big Internet.

 
25693/10/2008 1:09:00 AMddoTNo, leave me in. I like it there. I can't decide on the blondie or the dark haired cutie. Help me please, and oh I forgot, WHERE'S THE FRIGGIN WARM WEATHER. I just want to ride my bike ya know?

 Warm weather will be there directly. In the meantime, this should warm you up. It was done before the Widder got word this stuff is totally inappropriate. It is the sole remaining episode in the unpublished series. >>>

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25683/10/2008 1:05:00 AMPCPWhat are you fusing?

Let him out of the cage please.

 A simple integration of ride technologies. Simple, yet, heretofore impossible… which would explain why one cannot find references to it as a reliable technique.

We don't think he wants out.

 
25673/9/2008 11:54:00 PMSlamCrankNow what kind of crap are you talking about. I googled the term and found it might be already in use. What the fuck is it all about anyway?

 First I have to mention that Turtle Boy showed up for a race today (just for the ride), and finished easily with the pack for a 24 mph average.

Either he's planning on coming to the rescue of some happless team, or a bunch of people are really hoping he doesn't start taking his cycling seriously again. I guess both could be true.

As for the Fusion Training™ term, I didn't look it up before I coined it, but the similar references I found (after you mentioned it) are about something totally different. Still, we might have to come up with a more unique set of characters.

In any case, here's a sample of the stuff I'm talking about. It was today's 23+ Widder's Hump workout. >>>

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25663/9/2008 3:19:00 PMSarah
Cyclist
Somebody said you guys are doing something called Fusion Training™. I've never heard of that. You've never heard of Fusion Training™ before, because this is the first mention of it in print.

Fusion Training™ is a concept I developed this winter during the ongoing review process of the data gathered for the 23+ Widder's Hump.

I would guess that Fusion Training™ will be the wave of the future in state of the art training for cyclists, but it will take awhile to articulate the coalescement of these various technologies into this new unified system.

There may be some resistance to the idea at first, because it contradicts many long held yet erroneous assumptions widespread among the parctitioners of sports training.

 
25653/9/2008 11:55:00 AMPCPSave room for me on the ddoT pull train.

 Have you lost your mind? You have an auto pass. It is only fitting, because you have been the main impetus for him pulling it .>>>

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25643/9/2008 12:32:00 AMddoTSounds great. You can yell "pull" at me, like if we were at a skeet shooting competition. I will wear bibs and leave the straps hanging for you to grab onto.

 Pull.

 
25633/8/2008 11:32:00 PMddoTPlease, pretty please, release the sun from your sweaty grasps in Floriduh, and let me ride my goddamn bike outside. Please! Soon I will never want to ride my bike again, and you will all lose a fabulous wheel to suck this season. I was feeling really generous too, what a shame.

 No problem. Since you put it that way, we'll have your sun up there by Monday, and the rest of the week will be warm enough to get outside. Ok? We all set?

 
25623/8/2008 7:11:00 PMPCPAh ha! The EPO injection!

 I'm not sure if that's true. The Widder keeps talking about how her success is a result of her daily pure beef injection. Maybe that's it.

We just got a new shipment from Portugal: 39 through 46.

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25613/8/2008 1:01:00 PMPCPDamn. You caught me smoking. Don't tell mama.

 Not really. >>>

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25603/8/2008 11:08:00 AMPCPThe corset itself is from the Download Kim clothing line. And I know what you are going to ask… YES! it does have back pockets. Perfect for cycling.

 Makes you wonder what stuff our dough boy censor disallowed from publication doesn't it. Here's a sample. >>>

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25593/8/2008 11:02:00 AMPCPUpon skimming, I have this to say.

1) like the music analysis. Very true. Had I been able to….my foul shot record in college would have been much better.

2) as her coach, you'd better not give her HGH or we will call her Mrs. Clemens.

3) How come you know all this good stuff and you eat like crap?

 1) To bad about the foul shot, at least you've managed to retain the foul stench.

2) Fuck HGH, and all that crap. The 23+ Widder's Hump is an example of exceptional performance that is relatively easily accessible to anybody with a goal and a commitment to reach it—which brings up a timely point.

Today Marion Jones is in prison, and it is the fault of all of us. We all sat around and allowed what used to be a showcase for "amateur" accomplishment (The Olympics), where you could find people who had taken janitorial jobs at local restaurants in order to live on a subsistence in a studio apartment while they engaged in their passion for their sport, and who thus achieved exceptional performance with the hopes of gathering together with other like minded individuals in order to test themselves against the best that human beings can accomplish (healthily), to be transformed into a monstrous affirmation of global corporatization, where a single Gold Medal is meaningless, and a baker's dozen of them might only get you a few weeks of sponsorship bliss. Otherwise, a true and lasting professional career is available to NOBODY, and the next group of hapless and hopeless fodder for the corporate image makers is forever lined up just around the corner. Please, accept our apologies Marion. You were young, beautiful, smart, and talented, and we all took advantage of you.

I must add an historic footnote: When I was a kid the worst people on the planet were the Russians, and a most often quoted validation for them being the worst people on the planet was a reference to how their Olympic athletes were not actually “part time amateurs” but state sponsored “full time professionals” who were winning only because they also used drugs. Now we gladly accept the idea that our pro teams (I believe begun by the fielding of our pro basketball dream team) represents the best in human accomplishment. No wonder kids are confused.

Now the worst people on the planet are Muslims, and we are all standing around while our own religious fanatics use them as an excuse to bomb kids who might show up on the playing field.

3) The only reason I eat like I eat, is because I took a look at what the Widder eats. >>>

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25583/8/2008 1:44:00 AMJORepeats of 260? You're kidding me.

 No it really happened. >>>

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25573/7/2008 1:24:00 AMCaliperGirlWell, I liked it. Especially how you worked in a quick reference comparing Kevin Haley to David Beckham.

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25563/7/2008 1:13:00 AMCaliperGirlGot anything for Cranky to skim?

 Yeah, but it's too long, so she won't. >>>

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25553/6/2008 8:40:00 PMTurtle
Boy
Hi Bob,

I was riding with the guys in Portugal, and it was near the end of one of our usual 6 hour rides. We were coming to a town line sign, and I figured it was time to show everybody what I've got, so I took off for the line.

I went hard, and I'm telling you, Bob, if ever there was a moment of glory in the world of cycling, this was definitely one of the best. My heart rate peaked. My legs were screaming. I thought my lungs were about to burst.

The slope was brutal, the sun relentless, the pace unsettling. First, Danny dropped off the back, and I redoubled my effort. This was to be my day.

Not much later George was finally gone, and it was just me and the hill. Actually, I guess people in New York would call it a mountain.

I vow to you, my friend, that it was an effort like the ones they write about. I was transported, and up ahead I could just make out the very top of the world. I would soon be sitting upon it.

I pushed harder. They were gone… gone… all of them gone.

Right then my friend Albino (pronounced "albeeno," the guy with the crazy clothes in all the pictures) pulled along side me, spinning easily, and asked in a slightly quizzical, but in no way breathless voice, "Are you trying to sprint?"

I have invited him come to New York this September. I am paying his way over, just so I can prove to myself it was only a home court advantage.

You know, Bob, I would tell you this in person, but I'm afraid you would make a story out of it.

 Wouldn't think of it. But I would do this. >>>

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25543/6/2008 12:05:00 PMddoTNice rack! How many bikes does it hold?

 Go back to sleep.

 
25533/6/2008 11:22:00 AMPCPIf only!!!

 No. If only you were in Portugal. >>>

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25523/6/2008 10:33:00 AMJOCranky's got a brand new kit and is rarin' to go! I got back from Portugal just in time to get this early photo from the parking lot of the Hump.

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25513/6/2008 2:17:00 AMJOIs it true that Widder had a triple personal best today of:

1) 12 minutes @ 192 watts
2) 12 minutes @ 186 watts
3) 3 minutes @ 208 watts

 Sure did. Here's the graph of the raw data (no smoothing, no sampling reduction) for the 192 watts... smooth or what? >>>EXTRA
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25503/6/2008 12:29:00 AMPCPIs that really me? LOL Must be. The hand is on the doughnuts.

 That's you alright. If the Widder had got hold of it in Photoshop, she would have made you look really bad, but she had a workout to attend, so we went with the camera original.

 
25493/5/2008 12:22:00 PMToe Clip GuyBy the way, from the looks of it, it seems the training camp went well in Europe. I wouldn't say the same thing for those poor sheep.

Also, I don't know what to make of the Portugese rider with the inverted underwear over the cycling pants thing. Was he trying to draw someone's attention?

 The sheep are all ok. They were just doing their job.

As for the inverted underwear: you know how slow people are over here when it comes to picking up on the latest Euro stylings. It will be awhile before those bloomers catch on in the U.S.

Somebody will have to mention how they make you faster because of the extra heat generated by the tight packaging. They will also have to mention how they cost more than a house and a luxury auto, before people take them seriously.

Also, I think they help keep the sheep out of the goodies, or the other way round, or something.

I almost forgot. Here's your gift:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
25483/5/2008 12:18:00 PMCaliperGirlThank you, but it appears somebody has been at the Photoshop again.

 Ok, you caught us. Here's the true unaltered Kevin. >>>

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25473/5/2008 12:15:00 PMCaliperGirlThose photos of Kevin driving the Express Bus to Over-Training appear to be dated. I think he looks a lot better now.

 Right. >>>

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25463/5/2008 11:53:00 AMToe Clip GuyHey!

Cranky,

You promised never to release those. That's supposed to be part of the private, never to be released collection!

 Cranky, apparently Toe Clip would rather you not release his doughnuts. He probably was hoping for this:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
25453/5/2008 11:38:00 AMddoTNow that's friggin hot!

 Glad you could join us. Hope we didn't interrupt your nap.

 
25443/5/2008 11:34:00 AMSlamCrankBy "jollies," I believe Palletman was hoping for a photo of Cranky.

 Oh, yeah, you're probably right. >>>

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25433/5/2008 11:04:00 AMPalletmanWhy the fuck would anyone want to be on an "honest to goodness cycling club?" Just doesn't sound like very much fun to me. At my age I'm looking for all the jollies I can get!

 You want jollies? Here watch how Toe Clip smiles when I do this:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
25423/5/2008 10:31:00 AMPalletmanSomebody to Palletman at the starting line in Bethel this past Sunday, "Palletman, does the team have an extra set of wheels?"

Palletman, "Sure do!"

"Where are they?"

"Back in my car."

"Ugh…great job, Palletman!"

 Great job, Palletman.

Here's a gift for Toe Clip:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
25413/5/2008 10:20:00 AMSlamCrankI'm surprised the Widder didn't waste your morning with follow up photos from the 2008 Turtle Boy Very Excellent School of Competitive Cycling and Trash Talking.

 Me too.

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25403/5/2008 8:21:00 AMTurtle
Boy
Oh, shit!

B, I am so sorry!

But a week of getting my ass beat in Portugal made me a little stronger.


Don't Tread
On Turtle Boy

 No problem. Just prepare your story explaining to the Widder why she has become an actual Widder, after my heart attack, because I just can't shake the feeling that I can beat those numbers... if I try really, really hard.

 
25393/4/2008 9:57:00 PMTurtle
Boy
I just did a personal best with the Metal Man:

21.40 miles

avg speed: 27.8
avg watts: 262
time: 46:04

 Humberto, you mothercock fucksucking scabeating dicklicker. Fuck, YOU! What am I supposed to do with this information?

First off, I had to spend an hour explaining to the Widder how your 27.8 mph average had to be because you had drafting turned on, and that, no, she wasn't going to be able to do her 23+ Hump with 140 watts.

Plus, I already had it all figured out how you were only beating me because the hills are sucking up all my wattage. Now you come up with these fucking specs.

My first thought was, "I'll just beat his wattages. His fucking fancy pants hills don't help his scrawny ass there!"

My second thought was, "MOTHERFUCKER! I CAN'T BEAT THOSE WATTS... no matter how deydrated I get."

Yo, Turtle Boy, I think you just dropped your pencil. Bend over and take it like a man.

 
25383/4/2008 9:22:00 PMSlingShot

Active Recovery Day

Today was my active recovery day, and I chose for my activity a wattage test up to the Clearwater Bridge and back. Since the Widder took a full rest day, with no cycling, I didn't have to work very hard, so I got a good take on the status of my easy recovery rides.

Here is the summary:

Mary got to take the day off, but I jumped on the scale this morning and was 196.4. That is 6 lbs down from 4 days ago, so I could not take a day off, because I would lose my dehydration. It was my first day out on my own with the watt meter all to myself. Here are the results.

Warmup to bridge: 196 avg, 527 max

I am aware the warmup was almost 3 times the wattage of our standard warmup, but I was worried about losing my dehydration, plus 196 feels pretty easy for me. The 527 peak was at the beginning of the Bridge Interval, where I was not quite on the real slope yet, but I was getting setup to go.

Bridge Test North: 290 avg, 508 max

The 290 average includes a long section on the downhill over the top, because I forgot to hit the Interval after I blew myself up. The download data shows I spent most of the climb at 496 watts (and 5 seconds at 493) which probably accounts for the blowup. If Mary had been there, I would have had to work harder, but I did what was necessary to retain my current dehydration level. That way I will be able to live with myself after tomorrow’s bathroom scale attack.

Bridge Test South: 300 avg, 622 max

The 300 avg also includes the downhill after the bridge; because, once again, I was too blinded by wind whipped tears to hit the Interval. At least the tears help me maintain my dehydration.

Long Test Home: 213 avg, 436 peak

That was a 16:49 interval, and the 436 max looks like it was when a storm cloud hit me up by the big condos. In any case, holding a 213 avg is pretty easy for me… especially when there's dehydration at stake.

I like that watt meter. It has given me a whole different view of my OCD. I have already settled the watts vs. mph question, so tonight I will search the Internet for charts about watts vs. dehydration potential.

 That's all very nice, but what has it got to do with this? >>>

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25373/4/2008 10:25:00 AMCaliperGirlAfter Kevin told the Widder she's been riding too much, all my girlfriends got an e-mail from her with this photo. >>>

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25363/4/2008 1:02:00 AMToe Clip GuyCongratulations, Palletman.

Really great to hear your team (with no reference to the team name here as the team boss no likey) used effective tactics to pull off a decisive win. It's a beautiful thing!

Similarly, the Cat 2 Kissenas also relied on some blocking, marking, and mock chasing to keep our guy in the break group away from the pack. Then, it was his own horsepower that got him the win in the final sprint.

So by the way, whatever happened to those orange bicycles?

 Actually, the bossy would dearly love to have that name show up on this website (in fact has made numerous overtures to have their status reinstated), but due to a major malfunction on the bossy's part… that will never happen.

The less said about it, the better. It is merely a distraction which no longer rises even to the level of "mildy interesting." It is ancient history of no relevance to anyone. There are elsewhere actual events of significance to be followed.

In any case, those orange bicycles were confiscated by the police, as well they should have been.

Disclaimer: Please be aware that the "bossy" mentioned above is not the famous "Boss" who is often referred to in the ChattereBox.

Though we do appreciate everybody trying to figure it out, it must be mentioned that all guesses as to what this is about will be eternally wrong and misplaced. After all, a blackout is just that, nothing more, nothing less.

Here's a special gift:

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

 
25353/3/2008 10:42:00 PMTurtle
Boy
I am so fucking dead! We did around 115 km each and every day, plus one day we did 160 km. We had lots of fun, and the food was great! I am still 165 pounds.

 Sounds like too much mileage. Or is that kilometerage? Either way, I hope you're not overtrained.

 
25343/3/2008 10:26:00 PMPalletman

Bethel Results

Riding the Cat 3/4 for an undisclosed team, Glenn, Joe and Andreas made numerous attacks throughout the race until the field was finally willing to let their last attack get away without a chase.

One other rider followed as Joe Straub went off the front, while Andreas and Glenn blocked. The field had been so worn down by the constant flurry of attacks, they let the two front riders go without an answer.

Andreas and Glenn just sat on the front and held the peloton back, while Joe, having learned from past mishaps, let the other rider do the bulk of the work—only to pass him at the very last moment to take the win!

 Say, Joe Straub, now that you've got the basics under your belt, you might like to move up in the world. Better take Glenn and Andreas with you.

Here, check these guys out. They are friends of Toe Clip. Therefore, they come highly recommended.

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
cycling club, be faster

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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See what happens when you mention somebody is doing well? We refer them to an actual organization.

 
25333/3/2008 9:18:00 PMSlamCrankI think you have been showing a clear disregard for Kevin's feelings!

 Not at all. We could have done this. >>>

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25323/3/2008 6:08:00 PMKdbHI'm a big fan of Mary's, but I'm becoming a bit concerned with her training program.

A 40 mile recovery ride? There's no such thing. Maybe you meant 40 minutes?

Mary, your coach has you on a speeding bus heading straight towards a town called Over-Training!!!

KdbH

 Turns out you were right.

I did a Google search, and although all training programs are designed specifically for week-end warriors doing nothing more than those short little criteriums, just so they can call themselves racers, the fact remains: there was no such thing as a 40 mile recovery ride!

Now there is.

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25313/3/2008 11:58:00 AMNeoThis is the kind of shit that really pisses me off about Kevin.

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25303/3/2008 12:35:00 AMARC StaffWe just received the following from off shore:

Ola Mary,

Humberto´s School of Portugese Beat Downs is completed. However, we were not able to convert from kilometers to MMPH (Mary Miles Per Hour), so we do not have any statistics at this time. We can summarize with one word—ouch!

Humberto, George & Danny

 Just so all of you know how this impacts on our beloved SlingShot, be aware that sometime next summer, Dangerous Dan will turn to look down on a huffing and puffing Shot (as he reaches the top of some as yet undisclosed elevation); and, in a totally deadpan voice, make some arcane reference to this note, and SlingShot will be expected to know exactly what he is talking about… as if this e-mail had just arrived the very night before.

 
25293/3/2008 12:23:00 AMSlingShotAt this point, I guess mentioning that this afternoon (just for fun) I did 17 minutes and 42 seconds with an average of 227 watts is anticlimactic.

 Yes, it is.

 
25283/2/2008 9:45:00 PMJOPalletman did well in his first Cat 4 race today. Doug and another rider bumped shoulders. Doug stayed up. The other guy was not so lucky. .

 Glad to see you got back safe and sound from Portugal. Thanks for the report.

 
25273/2/2008 9:42:00 PMPCPYes. Last night, we were prepared with dollar bills in hand to supply Prince of Pain with enough liquor that he would have to go easy on us this morning in spin class. Well….he never showed up. The rest of us spent the dollars, and he spared us no pain this morning. Ouch.

 You have shown an instance of poorly designed process. What you guys should have done was give the dollars directly to Louie and make him promise not to show up for spin class instead.

 
25263/2/2008 5:58:00 PMddoTAny news from the shin-dig last night?

 Apparently, you were not there, so therefore square.

 
25253/2/2008 5:15:00 PMToe Clip Guy#1) SlingShot, congratulations on your mid-week milestone. However, winter is not over yet; and, just as my winter training took a bad turn, so can yours! Say a prayer to the cycling gods!

#2) Glad to know the Turtle Boy School of Very Fast Banana Eating Bike Racing Camp in Portugal went well. But from the looks of it, doesn't seem they left any bananas in country.

#3) I am almost hesitant to announce that the first race in Central Park this year (that's in New York City, for all you die hard country folk) was won today in the Cat 1-2-3's by our very own latest Cat 2 Kissena recruit.

We will enjoy it while it lasts as Cat 2's from our team who shine like that usually get picked by Pro teams with money bags—case in point, one guy named George… last name Hincapie.

May our team's victory rub off on this old man, and may he place well in……… BROOKLYN!!!

 Now look what you've done, smartass.

An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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An actual, honest to goodness, competitive cycling club.
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See what happens when you mention one of Turtle Boy's old racing chums.

 
25243/2/2008 10:25:00 AMJOWell, the 2008 Euro training camp for the Turtle Boy Very Excellent School of Competitive Cycling and Trash Talking has ended, but don't be sad.

We have a grande finale of three (3) photos, not just one (1), for the ending!

Click on 21, 22, 23. >>>

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25233/2/2008 12:27:00 AMSlingShot

SlingShot Reaches Milestone

[WARNING: The following posting contains graphic content that is certainly not for the squeamish. If you have just finished your dinner, you might like to read elsewhere.]

Today I reached a major milestone for the year. I am always very excited when it happens, and it is always near the middle of each winter.

At the beginning of every winter (and previously all the fucking year), during a ride my bulbous belly causes my cycling shorts to peel back and slide down under the mass in front, thus requiring constant pulling on my waistband in order to keep my pants up.

During today's 40 mile active recovery ride, I realized my stomach is finally flat enough (a term used advisedly) so that my shorts never crumpled under the lard, but stayed right where they started—for the entire whole ride.

Even though the Widder commented, "Yeah, but your shorts are still so stretched out in back, I can see the crack of your ass," I am pumped!!!

 Let me make myself perfectly clear. If you ever post anything like that here again, I will kill you. 
25213/1/2008 11:03:00 AMJOI found this classic photo of early Turtle Boy school in my files.

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25203/1/2008 12:37:00 AMSlamCrankThat's it? That's all you got for today's 23+ Widder's Hump workout?

 There's this. >>>

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25192/29/2008 3:56:00 PMddoTHow's the reading? Talk to me goose, talk to me. I have officially bailed out of the Landis book.

After I read the section about how he lied to his new team, and hid the problem with his hip from the team doctor (thus endangering the careers and families of every rider on that team, plus the health and wellfare of every rider in any race he would compete in), I decided I've got better things to read.

Except, I will go back through and make a note of where every reference to wattage is found.

Could be, I merely bailed on the book after reading about avasular necrosis, when I realized it probably describes my clavicle after my crash over a half dozen years ago. I spent the rest of the night repeating, "No wonder it hurts 24/7. Let me try to forget about it again."

But most likely, I gave up on the book, because I had to conform all our goals and test results to the new download system, and plan today's ride.

We went to Fort De Soto Park where Mary posted a new cadence spin rate record of 165—recorded by actual Polar measurement, not the non-sense guesstimate of the watt meter sans sensor. [Yes, there is a sensor option for the watt meter.]

After that, she was assigned a 200 watt 10 minute interval (the tme for Hump split one) where she succeeded in posting a 198 avg watts that included a necessary slow down around the North Beach circle, because some guy on a tri-bike (whom Mary had just basted not 200 yards before) tried to cut her out of the inside curve.

Coming out of the turn I cautioned her not to give chase, but to hold her wattage, because she had 3 minutes left in order to record the attempt.

When her interval was over, I said, get on my wheel, we are going to go catch him. It took 7 miles, and after Mary jumped on the front, pulled me past him, and sat up to cool down, I latched onto his wheel for the next 6 or so miles and would not be dropped.

When I thanked him for the pull and turned to go back for Mary he said, "Oh! I thought you were somebody else. I passed some guy back there who was not very nice."

At the time, I assumed he was talking about some other asshole, but after I thought it over, I realized that's pretty much the way everybody sees the Widder… a guy, and an asshole.

Good thing Mr. Tri-bike had aero-bars, or we would have caught him too fast and not had any fun at all.

The rest of the evening I have been passed out on the couch.

Was it my imagination, or did Floyd seem to be totally unaware of the cycling industry til someone (half) ghost wrote his book for him?

BTW: Mary's 198 watts avg, out and back through a side wind, gave us a 20.99 mph avg for the distance, and that almost exactly bisects the cross hairs prediction on our simplified graph.

We are doin' it, dude. We are doin' it.

 
25172/29/2008 10:22:00 AMJOThere's been a bit of an uproar in Portugal.

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25162/29/2008 1:31:00 AMSlamCrankWell, I found my own error on the first paragraph of page 82.

 You too are motherfucking insane. Shut up and read.

 
25152/29/2008 1:22:00 AMddoTYou're supposed to read and absorb like a sponge, not edit.

 Writers are supposed to use punctuation with the care that a road crew places traffic signage, so people don't misunderstand and crash.

 
25142/29/2008 1:21:00 AMARC StaffFor those reading (not skimming) the Landis book, SlingShot has identified an error in the text.

The final paragraph at the bottom of page 80 has the phrase, "as they days went on." It should correctly read, "as the days went on."

SlingShot also contends he would have placed a comma (,) between "looming, and" in the second line down from the one mentioned above.

However, we think the second edit might be at best merely a judgement call, and at worst nit picking.

 It's a disease.

 
25132/28/2008 2:06:00 PMSlamCrankAll this Turtle Boy and Friends in Portugal is well and good, but is there any news stateside?

 Not much... oh, yeah, there is this. >>>

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25122/28/2008 10:36:00 AMJOThings are heating up over at Turtle Boy School. Here's four new photos: 14-17.

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25112/28/2008 2:46:00 AMSlamCrankI think I know what the problem is.

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25102/28/2008 12:43:00 AMddoTYo, Crank Mama. If you read Floyds book, not guilty will be the only thing you believe. The whole testing procedure was an absolute laugher. Tell you what, even if you think he doped on Stage 17 (all umpteen other times he was tested during the Tour he was perfectly fine), just remember that in that same year, 2006, he won the tour of California, Tour of Georgia, and Paris-Nice, and was found to be drug free during all of those. An American rider WAS NOT going to win the Tour (or be allowed to win) after Lance's 7. Just my opinion.

 I'm about half way through the Landis book now, and it occurred to me that you already know this, but I'd better post a note just for my own head.

I just finished the part where Floyd snapped off his hip, and went on to ride anyway. At that point, I thought of an exercise for everybody to do the moment they read that part of the book.

Grab hold of all the Tour de France videos that you can get your hands on. Watch them until you have a refined internal visual image of the size of the peloton. Factor in this: those in the peloton are but a small percentage of the vast number of riders who could be there if not for this and that series of happenings, and add that group into your mental image of the peloton's size.

Ok, got that image in your head? Then realize this.

Each and every person in that group has pretty much the exact same story in their background as the one told by Floyd. They just don't write it down (with or without ghost writing help), and it never gets published, and it is a story they only ever recount to themselves.

In any case, I'm trying to read the whole book, but it's been a long time since I could read anything that I did not feel was giving me exact, precise, and immediately useful information. So far, I have found very little about watts during workouts, logical reasons why things didn't work out when they didn't work out, nothing about the training table and who might be handing whom vitamins.

The other thing I have noticed, which I have found in every other cycling book by champions, is that they never talk about all the books they were reading for fun during their training. For some reason, it always seems they are focused on riding, not on reading about it, or talking about it, or showing up at G's after a ride in order to slam down shots.

I'll probably have to write a whole article on why drugs are bad, and worse yet stupid, and how maybe the only thing worse is summed up pretty good on the inside front cover flap of Floyd's book:

"…the inner workings of the cycling world—a place where athletes are subject to the antiquated science, flawed interpretive protocols, and draconian legal processes of the anti-doping angencies…"

Many, many years ago, I myself could not even find a definitive list of the substances which are banned. I have also read accounts how the French and British soccer teams are always pissed off at each other because creatine is legal in England (and the U.S), but it is illegal in France. Whenever the two teams compete, the Brit's are considered instrinsically doping.

But that's a whole 'nother article that would include an entry from the most comprehensive list I ever found which mentions: caffeine, and which would explain the number of years I would not even drink coffee, nor eat chocolate, nor any flavor Gu but the vanilla.

.

 
25092/28/2008 12:22:00 AMPCPWe must really start an ARC Book Club. Certainly there are enuff of us nerds here reading all winter long.

I'd previously enjoyed all the Lance books, but I've been reading the text books this winter thanks to Toe Clip. Perhaps I should read Floyd to get a perspective, because I'm stuck on guilty… and then Marion Jones really went and burst my bubble. Everybody STOP cheating!!! You are ruining things!

Widder better not dope on her 23+ Widder's Hump!!

 Since you are busy, and skim, you probably missed the specs for the 23+ Widder's Hump at post #2430 which specifically mentions drug free.

See also: the last four paragraphs in post #2510 above.

 
25082/27/2008 9:39:00 PMddoTWAIT A MINUTE!I see a pattern here! You got into learning French all hot and heavy, then the watt meter lingo all hot and heavy, and now that you know that in Stage 17 Floyd churned out even less watts than previous races, you're going to call those French Fried Fucks and tell em' to kiss your ass!!!!!! They were wrong.

 I had not noticed the pattern myself, but maybe I will do just that. Of course, it would be better if they gave a fuck about what I think, but I'm sure they have as little interest in my thoughts as I have in theirs regarding the ever more prestigious, renowned, and incomparable (not to mention incomprehensible) 23+ Widder's Hump.

 
25072/27/2008 9:35:00 PMddoTHey, don't destroy the purpose of the book to skim for watts, watts, watts. There is some other good stuff there, too. I can't tell you 100% that he was innocent, but I'll say 99.9% he was!

 I can say this at 100%, because I don't really give a fuck. Fuck the UCI for the way they treated Floyd early on. Fuck them in the ear, fuck them in the rear, fuck them in every orifice. Except of course, applaud them for their efforts to keep competitive cycling about human capacity and not about technology.

 
25062/27/2008 9:16:00 PMddoTGlad I could help!

 Then make sure to help all the way, and don't let anybody else read it.

 
25052/27/2008 7:26:00 PMSlingShotI just wrote the response to ddoT then stepped away from the computer. Immediately, it struck me again how totally incredble this new information is, and we wouldn't know it without ddoT suggesting the book.

So... THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ddoT.

 Now, make sure nobody else reads it.

 
25042/27/2008 6:15:00 PMddoTLet me know what you think of the Floyd book! I was impressed and enlightened by a few parts.

 Thank you, thank you, thank you for turning us on to that book.

I got home from B&N, grabbed the book, sat down and skimmed through, looking for watts info. So far, I found the description of that massive stage win with watts given on page 167 and 169. It is fucking incredible to finally see a statement of objective external measurement for one of those "greatest moments in cycling history" episodes.

Fucking incredible to know full well EXACTLY what is being described.

Floyd says, "…I was cranking above 500 watts for a few seconds, so I settled down into a ten-minute effort at 430 watts, not quite as hard as my rest-day climb at 460 watts."

That sure put my 02/12/08 Clearwater Bridge climb into perspective. At the bottom, I had already hit 525 watts before the full slope was reached. Although that ride was before we were downloading data, my notes mention that I saw 600+ at the 3/4 mark, and 633 when I blew. All the while Mary was holding a modest 300 watts.

Now, having seen Landis tell of a 280 watt average for Stage 17 (page 169), I really understand what my 260 to 290 watts (that I was holding after having blown on the return climb) really means. I finally know precisely why I fucking hurt so fucking much on so fucking many rides… that is to say: all of them.

I also have a really great way to explain power to weight ratio to people in order to encourage them to take off a few pounds, "If you would prefer not to take off the weight, you can do like me and routinely have a close to world class performance according to your effort while getting dropped by losers on every fucking hill longer than a football field!"

I occurs to me that the Landis success might not have been just because of the drugs, but due to his careful attention to staying calm and collected by paying close attention to (and obeying) his watt meter.

I am also more sure than ever we are on the money with the Widder's 23+ Hump.

Thanks again Todd… and again thanks.

BTW: In case you don't have a watt meter, 500 watts is for sure nowhere near to a 700 lb leg press, no matter what type leg press machine.

And as an aside, I assume Floyd's watt meter is extremely, extremely important to him during a race, because our experience is that it shaves off a mile or two per hour due to the added weight, etc. The jury is still out whether Mary will use it while doing her Widder's Hump, or swap it out for a standard wheel on test day, because her 23+ Hump is likely to be a closer to the upper limits of human capacity than are any dozen or so stage wins in the Tour de France.

She might need every possible speed advantage, and might not be able to absorb the hit in pace as easily as Landis did on his own ride.

 
25032/27/2008 4:21:00 PMddoTToe Clip- you're another book behind now. Positively False by Floyd Landis is now history, and I'm moving on to Lance Armstrongs War. Try and keep up would ya!

 Leave Toe Clip alone. Though I'm not sure why.

In any case, the best part of the next book on your agenda is a section where Cheryl Crowe shows up with a cold and everyone dives into a bunker when they hear her sniffling. I just went through the same thing in Border's Books while looking for the Landis book. The place sounded like a TB clinic, and I kept thinking of my three weeks off with a cold last year which turned into a year of broken dreams.

I didn't find the book, so walked out, sprayed myself down with a little sterilizing spritzer I now carry around with me everywhere, and went across the street to Barnes & Noble, where the clientele was more upscale, and the book was found.

Don't forget to get Bobke II after the Lance book.

 
25022/27/2008 11:27:00 AMPCPAHHHHHH. The ants!!! LOVE THE ANTS!!! YES!! Toe Clip fighting to get back on the pack! Good thing you had your helmet on, Clipperrrrr.

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25002/27/2008 10:17:00 AMJOTurtle Boy has finally vindicated himself by coming through with a promise other than food.

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24992/27/2008 12:04:00 AMToe Clip GuyThank you, but I don't think Toe Clip Ant wooda just bailed out so quickly, unless that was the Toe Clip Ant with leg cramps.

 Actually, that Toe Clip Ant probably wooda, coulda, shoulda bailed out earlier, for then he would not have crashed into the wall.

 
24982/26/2008 10:41:00 PMARC StaffDue to public outcry (Cranky and Toe Clip), ARC contracted Ceasar Milano Cookie (The Ant Whisperer) to get them puppies in line.

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24972/26/2008 8:32:00 PMPCPLOVE the ants!! I too missed Toe Clip off the back.

Is D.B. Haley really in Portugal? Sort of like self torture that anyone else would even agree to go under those circumstances.

 Did Kevin leave the impression that he was going to Portugal?

Our understanding is that he is elsewhere far, far away.

BTW: ARC is currently looking for somebody who can more adequately train ants to do as they are told.

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24962/26/2008 6:50:00 PMToe Clip GuyOk…forget the ant off the back, I don't care.

Remember the NYC based Shimano photoshoot I was aking for any brave takers? Apparantly, this was for real.

Bicycling Mag's Buyers Guide Issue has one of our Kissena guys (on p43) for their custom shoe!That coulda been any one of you 700lb leg pressing, power meter burning, carbon frame cracking, 23+ Hump riding prima donnas, male or female.

 What the fuck happened? Shoes? No toe clips?

 
24952/26/2008 5:39:00 PMddoTIf you want to see Levi and the Astana boys in le Tour this year, go to letleviride.com and sign the on-line petition. Might help, might not.

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24942/26/2008 4:21:00 PMToe Clip GuyYou forgot to include the one ant off the back.

 We ran out of video tape waiting for it to arrive.

 
24932/26/2008 2:15:00 PMCaliperGirlThat reminds me. I really miss the Kevin Haley articles. While Turtle Boy is out of the country, couldn't we have some more Kevin?

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24922/26/2008 12:10:00 PMSlamCrankYo! Kevin! Do I detect a glint of envy in your eyes?

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24912/26/2008 10:34:00 AMJOI'm not sure if they wanted me to send this one in. It is a secret training routine that Turtle Boy learned in the U.S. and has brought to Portugal.

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24902/25/2008 2:59:00 PMddoTI've been reading Floyd Landis' book. It's got tons of wattage facts and figures throughout. If you haven't read it, you might like it just for that reason alone.

 Excellent. Will get right on it. Otherwise, it's 75° and sunny, I would be remiss if I did not get out on my bike. Talk to you later.

 
24892/25/2008 2:30:00 PMddoTI did not fall into the trap of believing that the lone cowboy out front would make it, simply because the 4 man chase had gotten the gap to 15 seconds, and they chose to leave it there for a while. Why push harder then you have to if you know he's not going anywhwere, but then that's not too dramatic right?

So yeah, they hype it up a bit. I thought the cool part was that once the lead group was back to 5 men, and they started playing games with each other, the peloton closed at a very fast rate with Astana doing all the work— and for no good reason!

They had the race in the bag already. It was fun to watch the pack get close at the end, but even better to watch George grab a win for his new team.

I think they estimated the crowd at something like 1.7 million spectators for the length of the tour, and that's healthy for cycling in general, and especially cycling in America.

I hope to go watch it someday.

 You have just broken the hearts of a lot of people who were really hoping they could continue to fuck with you on the Hump this spring.

In the future, I hope there'll be watt meters on everybody's bike with a readout posted on the TV screen.

It will be interesting to hear Roll say, "Man, they still can't close in on that 15 seconds, and they are working like dogs," while we watch everybody's meters show 180 watts. Then when the leader finally pops and drops to 130 watts, it will be fun to watch Hincapie pounce and make it look like he's going fast with only 250 watts in his legs.

By the description (and the video) one might assume the leader was still going 30, and Hincapie sprinted over 70… no more unlikely than someody finishing the Hump over 25.

Here's an idea. Don't go watch it. Go ride with them. Here's a better idea. Don't go ride with them. Go kick their asses.

 
24882/25/2008 12:59:00 PMSlamCrankYo! Kevin! Nice ride.

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24872/25/2008 10:35:00 AMddoTGo big George! Nice finish to the tour of California yesterday. The USA based teams had some great results overall, with team Slipstream-Chipotle finishing with three riders in the top six in the overall standings.

Lots of drama with Levi and team Astana winning the overall, and still no invite to the Tour De France—thanks in part to the number of riders caught doping on that team last year.

 Great commentary, discounting the lack of news content. Maybe you should become a cycling commentator, discounting there's only two jobs (already filled), so you have more chance of becoming a rock star.

You should probably work on the requisite skills just in case. Here is the main requirement.

You must become perfectly adept at giving the appearance of total astonishment when some lunkhead makes the totally stupid move of breaking away from the breakaway with 26 miles left to the finish.

You must be able to hold that state of asonishment for the half hour including edits and commercial breaks, peppering your commentary with little gems of colorful language about how this move is unheard of, how it is unbelievably brave, how that rider is sure to be numbered among the greats. You must slowly build excitement over the rider's obvious and unexpected superiority as he manages to stay away from the dogging mob. You must make this scenario absolutely seamless, fresh, and believable, despite the fact that this is exactly the way every bike race in the history of cycling has progressed.

I know that seems like a daunting task, but it is really not so hard to do, because everybody watching is aware of the laws of physics and knows the sucker will be caught (most likely within the last kilometer) when the riders who have not been total idiots decide it's time to go catch him. Yes, everyone watching will know for a certainty there can be no other possible ending, but everyone watching will also wish nothing more than to see it happen, so they are quite willing to believe it is happening… just like a geek likes to think starship transporters are real.

The only hard part of maintaining the commentary described above is in the keeping of the straight face during your final incredulous gasp about how the rider was finally caught (like it wasn't a forgone conclusion from the very start) while avoiding any mention of the fact that if the person ever did manage to stay away they would only be calling attention to themselves and triggering the drug test scrutiny which would prove it only happened because they were doping.

It has always been that way, with never the slightest variation, so you can study by merely memorizing commentaries from old footage of Liggitt and Roll. Actually, I guess you only have to study one, because they are all exactly the same.

Please, learn the dialogue well, because believing it is real is about the only thing that keeps me going.

 
24862/25/2008 4:06:00 AMJOToday's Portugal report from the Turtle Boy Very Excellent School of Competitive Cycling and Trash Talking, is just a reminder the training can only be described as extreme. That Turtle Boy sure does keep the program moving.

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24852/24/2008 1:48:00 PMSlamCrankDo you think Turtle Boy knows he can post stuff from Portugal?

 Probably not.

 
24842/24/2008 11:01:00 AMJODangerous got in a little trouble again. But everybody's ok.

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24832/24/2008 10:59:00 AMJOTurtle Boy asked if you could run this promo for the school.

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24822/24/2008 10:42:00 AMJODangerous Dan's going to be alright. They found something he will eat.

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24812/24/2008 12:11:00 AMFGPCP… the Missus and I are heading down to Flori-DUH the first week in March… Naples area… we'll be sure to bring back oranges, as the Rickets are starting to set in. Need a new supply of Southern doughnuts?

 Although Naples is a few hours below us, be sure to report back if you find good rides, because we might get bored and need to go down there to finish up these Widder Performance Charts.

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24802/23/2008 9:57:00 PMSlingShotI just watched that AMGEN cycling thing where Bob Roll interviewed the winner of the sprint, and I really have been studying my French really really hard, but I have to say I still did not understand one fucking word that came out of Mark Cavendish's mouth.

 Has anyone ever mentioned to you that you might not be that smart?

 
24792/23/2008 3:52:00 PMJOThis just in from International news agencies:

Chuckie is skiing in Ottawa. Apparently he is planning to do the Ididntrod.

 You are supposed to be tracking Turtle Boy training.

 
24782/23/2008 3:43:00 PMPalletmanMother F..fers! I've got it all TIVO'd for watching this afternoon, and I have to put up with this shit?

 Yes.

BTW: Levi wins the Time Trial. We still don't have results on who wins the drug test afterwards.

 
24772/23/2008 2:51:00 PMPCPYou got that right. Especially since happy hour was planned around watching today's coverage. Well, he'll just have to take it out on Pretty Boy or some unsuspecting Paris Hilton look alike.

   
24762/23/2008 2:47:00 PMToe Clip GuySorry, Palletman,

I realized after the post I wasn't the last to hit the DiVo. You can take it out on us on the Hump this summer.

This spring would be too easy and not as satisfying.

   
24752/23/2008 12:28:00 PMToe Clip GuyWOW!!!!... Just saw yesterday's time trial stage. Levi blew away the field. Has he been training with the Widow? Or doing leg presses with Ddot?

 Neither. He's just all pumped up, because he heard somebody said he looked like FG.

Hope you realize P'man's going to go all whiney on us for ruining the ending on him.

 
24742/23/2008 11:02:00 AMJOWell, we're in Portugal, and I got the first day's training log photo.

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24732/23/2008 9:58:00 AMPCPDoes this Troy guy ever sleep?? He was kicking ddoT's arse at midnight, and he's over my house at 6am! What gives? Send this guy to Floriduh to get us some sunshine and oranges.

 Widder is thinking Troy looks pretty good after seeing the likes of me on her ass every time she turns around.

 
24722/23/2008 3:08:00 AMddoTHey, Cranky! Coach Troy just wedged his foot in my ass again, and the room temp was a comfortable 83 degrees. You should have been there. It's a lot of fun watching me hover so close to the point of passing out.

 Beware of Troys wearing cleats.

 
24712/23/2008 1:09:00 AMPCPHey, Peeps. Hope the boys get out of town, so we can see pictures of Dangerous holding his nose at all the food markets.

Slinger- ahh…Carl Hiaasen. Anyone ever tell you that you remind them of him? Well, consider yourself told.

ddoT, how much of a handicap are you giving SlingShot on the leg press? I want in on this wager.

 Something tells me, there may be a lot more pictures than just Dangerous refusing food.

As for your second paragraph, nobody has mentioned Carl Hiaasen before, but Sharon drew parallels to Dave Barry when I showed her the Spin Bitch article. Of course, she's dead now. Hit that tractor and all. Be careful.

No wager needed on the leg press. Here are the official results:

ddoT has kicked my ass, and my ass is going to stay kicked.

Additionally, I fucked up yesterday and allowed the Widder an extra 15 watts on the Clearwater Bridge climb, and she kicked my ass even worse than ddoT.

Of course, I was pulling minimally 200 watts more than she was (even on the more gently sloped start), but the necessity of doing it for 98 reps in quick rotation eventually caused a big fat LOSER to be pasted over my name on the leader board. I've got charts and graphs coming on that one soon.

BTW: You might have noticed on that comparison to Hiaasen, Barry, etc that everybody who writes on this website compares very favorably to those guys.

Mama Bianchi, Dr. Art, D.B., Nuclear Dan, Twin Lynn, yourself, Pretty Boy, BLASTER, Ryan, Georgie Girl (when she's around), ddoT, FG, Toe Clip, Turtle Boy, Zirra, P'man, Gapper, Catskills John, Download Kim, Widder, Chuckie, Parveen, Joe Straub, etc, etc. Not to mention all the people whose casual conversation I plagiarize every chance I get.

All in the same league.

And just so we don't get in an Obama Xerox situation, here's what I learned in a college Contemporary Literature course:

Amateurs imitate.
The professional steals.

 
24702/22/2008 11:58:00 PMddoTSorry, the damn link doesn't work. That's two things I'm no good at now.

 Just keep playing with it. You'll get good at the other thing.

 
24692/22/2008 4:59:00 PMddoTNo pulleys or gadgets, just a standard leg press machine. You sit at a 45 degree angle (legs up) and the weight rides on a sled, which slides on linear bearings up and down two shafts, like this.......EXTRA
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Afterwards, I found a picture which may be the same sort of device on Wikipedia and linked it at right.

The 45 degree angle (not the sitting position of course, but the angle the weight guides follow up) is basically a hill slope, so I went back to the climb watts caclutor and found that in order to match the same amount of effort for a 700 lb lift at 100% slope on a leg machine with a 45% helper slope of the sort shown, you would have to use a little more than 1200 lbs.

Which is all irrelevant. Except for comparison of lifts, you would want to compare your own performance to world class lifters on the exact same type machine.

To get the full URL for the image you tried to link: go find it again, right click on the image, click Properties, and on the line labled Address left click the top left of the accompanying text and pull all the way down and to the right in order to highlight the entire URL (all of which might not be visible but can me highlighted as described), the hit CTL-C and move to where you want to paste it and hit CTL-V. Nothing to it.

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24672/22/2008 3:33:00 PMddoT...ain't got shit else to do but watch it snow, that's why. Be that as it may, does that leg press machine you are using have any pulleys and gadgets attached it?

In the old days, a leg press machine was basically taking a weight lifting bench and sticking it under a squat rack in order to push the weight up with your legs.

Nowadays, I've seen a lot of leg press machines that enhance the lifters ergonomic position, and then add geegaws to move the weight. Sometimes it's at an angle, sometimes it's with pulleys.

Not that it's important one way or another, whether your 700 lb leg press is merely nominal, or actually 700 lbs straight up in the air with no mechanical advantage. The only thing important is that it's the exact same amount of resistance each time, so when you come back to it next week after your recovery, and after munching on your Steroid Chocolate Nut Crunches or Creatine Thick Shakes, or whatever your favorite snack food is, and you can press 701.5 lbs, you will know for sure you are improving.

However, for my own edification, I would just like to know exactly how much weight you are doing in a straight-up no-help position, so I can plug it into my calculations.

I am planning this year's workouts, and I want to know precisely how far a head start I am going to have to give myself in order to beat you on the Hump.

 
24662/22/2008 3:25:00 PMSlingShotI just came in from my morning 2 mile walk, and I finally understand why all of us get that look of incredulity from people who asks us, "You are riding your bicycle in this heat?"

I was just in street clothes (T-shirt and shorts) and the sun had spouted a little geyser of sweat on my left cheek, and I thought, "Man, it's hot. I don't know if I can go for a ride today."

Then I realized that walking in the 80 degree sun in street clothes is something quite different from riding your bike in a 20 mile an hour wind tunnel while wearing clothes specifically designed to wick away moisture and cool the body.

I think an easy 40 on the trail will be fine for today.

 What makes you think people have time to read this crap?

 
24652/22/2008 3:21:00 PMToe Clip GuyI bet if you were to lead all those good folks to the local bus depot, they would gravitate to the nearest Greyhound Bus and act like it's a big ole family reunion, toothless, hairy lipped and all.

By the way, on the upper left hand corner of that link, the local weather shows currently 82 degrees with a forcast high of 86. I have only one word to say to that: BROOKLYN!

 Talk about irony. I posted the thing about my walk (above) while you were posting this.

Maybe you mistunderstood the point of my linking to that article.

I never meant to imply that Floriduhns resembled my family, although I can understand your confusion… wait you've never seen my folks, how'd you come up with that perfect description?

I believe Turtle Boy and his crew is in Brooklyn right now. There's a photo of them hooked on to post #2463.

 
24642/22/2008 2:21:00 PMSlingShotGenerally, I don't waste everybody's time with outside links, because there are billions of possibilities and anybody with Google access can find this stuff for themselves.

However, after JO's posting (#2447) about the Floriduh school system's plans to finally start teaching evolution, Widder found this article about it in a small local paper. I had her look up the original article for a snow day.

You may think it was written by SlingShot, because it is that good, but it was not. >>>

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24632/22/2008 11:36:00 AMJOHere ya go. I got this photo of The Turtle Boy Very Excellent School of Competitive Cycling and Trash Talking leaving for Portugal today.

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24622/22/2008 3:20:00 AMCaliperGirlGood. I was afraid nobody was going to come up with something Dangerous could eat in Portugal.

 Should be ok, if he closes his eyes and holds his nose.

 
24612/22/2008 3:03:00 AMConnie
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24602/22/2008 1:48:00 AMJOHere, I tracked down some info.

The user files for PowerAgent are stored in: C:\Documents and SettingsUserName\.poweragent\, that is the folder that should be backed up.

Anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's whether that folder will actually be able to be restored after a system failure. Though, I did pull everything out of that folder, start the program, found all the user data gone, closed the program, put the stuff back in the folder, opened the program again, and all the data was restored.

I hate computers.

In order to save data filtering elements such as deleted false start intervals, and renamed intervals, you must also add a couple letters to the monolithic "Notes" field then click "Save" which will save both the edited note plus any changes made to the interval names. Each time you need to enable that "Save" button you must enter at least 2 new characters in the Note field. Adding a single character will not toggle the button back on.

I haven't a clue why the interval "Save" function is disabled. Maybe there's a Premium Version in which it is functional.

This is all a bit of a fudge, but it does make the software almost useful. Oh yeah, also you should first export the downloaded files to a csv for archiving, then work from copies which have been imported just to be safe.

 Don't try to fool me. You didn't look up a thing. You merely figured that out on your own. I've decided that you must be a computer genius of my own caliber.

 
24592/21/2008 11:26:00 PMSlamCrankSo why do you think people are even bothering to use the watt meter?

 Because the unit itself (forget the minimal software) is an INSANE leap in improvement for keeping precise track of a rider's true performance and for learning what that performance actually means.

After we finished today's 8 really hard intervals of varying length, three strong male (all legs shaved) riders passed us during our spin home.

Fortunately, they made the fatal error of chirping, "Hi guys," as they passed, so I gave Widder permission to chase after we gave them a 200 yard head start.

When we caught them, Mary learned more about her performance (and what I've been talking about) by comparing her wattages on their hurky jerky 24 mph pace to the wattages she has learned to control in our workouts than she has learned about cycling in the last five years.

Still, the software sucks. Well, not so much sucks as has so very far to go. My first suggestion would be to add a "Save Snapshot" function, plus an interval specific note field, and of course an assured process for restoring ALL the data after a complete system failure. After that, they could pretty much shut down development and start basking in the glory of having provided an excellent product.

 
24582/21/2008 11:00:00 PMSlingShotWell, kiddies, if you believe a PowerTap and the software that comes with it is much more than 1980's technology, you'd better start believing something else.

I finally got Mary's specs up to a level that warranted downloading the information onto the computer and learning how to use that interface.

Guess what? There is no way to filter the data (such as deleting false start intervals), then saving it for future review. No wonder I couldn't figure out the file system in order to know what files should be backed up. Basically, they don't exist.

At first I thought it was just a problem with the export function, when all the name changes for intervals (to keep track of which was which), plus the deletions (of junk false starts), did not export to the csv file.

However, I eventually gave up, stepped away from the computer for a frustrated while, came back, re-opened the software and found that even the software itself doesn't retain that information on closing the program. It doesn't even retain the "notes" entries. I lost about an hour's worth of work.

Fortunately, I've been around computers long enough to know exactly what things need to be addressed first, so I didn't waste weeks on this.

Given the way the software works, I would expect seeing a large number of promotional photos showing how the pros are using this device (in fact The Widder already found a photo of a boxfull of watt meters for Slimpstream), but we will just have to pass all that on over to more cycling who's got the drugs nonsense.

No serious trainer is going to waste a minute massaging data that cannot be easily archived… especially when riders are already so easy to convince that they are being given Vitamin B12 injections.

 Welcome back to the future. It's 1985. Good thing you've been keeping good notes. Too bad you're going to have to keep on keeping them in exactly the same way.

 
24572/21/2008 9:55:00 AMSlamCrankI really enjoyed the classic photo of Humberto, Dan, and George on their Computrainers in Portugal. Do you have any more from that era?

 We had to rummage around a little, but we found this one of the Turtle Boy School of Competitive Cycling and Trash Talking's departure for Portugal last year. We assume tomorrow will look pretty much the same.

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24562/21/2008 1:42:00 AMddoTI just finished Lance's book, "It's Not About the Bike." Definitely a good read. Now, I'm starting Floyd's book, "Positively False," tomorrow.

 He wished.

 
24552/21/2008 1:14:00 AMPCPddoT - Wacha reading?

About all Toe Clip has time to read right now is April15 + April15 -April15 = April15. All work and no play makes Toe Clip a dull boy.

 You wish.

 
24542/21/2008 1:10:00 AMPCPBye, Portugal bound fellas. Humberto, make Dangerous eat some real food over there. Real men eat what the locals eat!!

 Except for expat Portuguese who eat what the locals leave on the roadside.

 
24532/20/2008 9:34:00 PMFGand it looks like Levi has broken his nose less times than I have…a lot less!

 Yeah, his nose may still be solid, but he's got the dough nuts.

 
24522/20/2008 9:30:00 PMFGHands off the Mojo!

   
24512/20/2008 4:37:00 PMddoTMore reading everyone, please! Knowledge is power in our fight to regain the roads from the Dark Knights of Normally Yucky!

 Shut the fuck up, ddoT! What are you trying to do, screw up my plot to keep people fat and stupid?

 
24502/20/2008 3:40:00 PMD.B.Humberto and the boy's are heading to Portugal this week. I'm sure it will be mentally refreshing for them to ride their computrainers in a different basement and a different country.

Enjoy fellas!

 Thank you, Mr. Cooper, for reminding us to check our files for photos of last year's Portugal trip. We found the boys in that other basement, and it was just as you describe it. The fellows look very refreshed and mental. >>>

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24492/20/2008 2:55:00 PMddoTHey toe clip- I have another book ready for you. Let me know when you want to grab it.

 No reading.

 
24482/20/2008 12:16:00 PMddoTMe Tarzan, me want ride bikey.

 Bullshit! …or so we thought, until we saw your recent photo submitted with the post. Actually, we had thought all the leg press stuff was bullshit. Sorry for doubting. >>>

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24472/20/2008 11:01:00 AMJOUnder the heading Only In Floriduh: Today's big local (Tampa) news is the Board of Education has allowed the schools will now teach: "The Scientific Theory of Evolution," whereas the courses used to be termed, "Biological Change Over Time."

There has been an uproar, because the locals do not want the word evolution even mentioned in classes, "Let the kids decide for themselves whether or not the earth was created in 6 days and is no more than 6000 years old."

 Lovely. Let them also decide if fast food is good for them, and candy machines should be placed in the school cafeteria over by the cigarette machines. 
24462/20/2008 12:48:00 AMPCPHmmm. So does that mean my pretty little Seven was once ridden by Levi? Maybe I'll try to get his mojo since trying to get FG's didn't work.

Oh, and the real way to tell them apart is see who goes for the Doughnut.

 FG, drop that doughnut and turn over the mojo!!!

 
24452/19/2008 11:40:00 AMJOAll the TV talk is about Castro resigning. So what has changed? He just passed the whole mess on to his brother. We had Castro yesterday, and we've got Castro today.

If I had my druthers, I'd never have to hear the word Castro again… nor Bush, nor Clinton for that matter. It's all the same thing.

 You might be on to something there, JO.

 
24442/19/2008 10:15:00 AMddoTI somehow feel dumber having even looked at that.

By the way, The leg presses are now over 700 lbs as of last night, and that's on the fourth set of ten rep's, not a one shot max out. Now I just have to figure out how to ride the leg press machine on Saturdays.

 Don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure looking at it could not have made you any dumber.

Actually, no need to ride the leg press machine on the Hump. You are doing fine. All you need to do is bring your sets down to one, and your rep's up to 8,280. That shouldn't be so hard, you will have an hour and a half to to get them all in.

 
24432/19/2008 2:17:00 AMARC StaffWe have put together a special cycling luminaries recognition test. Good luck. >>>

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24422/18/2008 3:47:00 PMJOSlingShot, somebody said you had a special bathroom moment this morning.

 That's right. I have officially taken off my first ten pounds for the year. That is always a major milestone, because it means I am only 40 pounds away from getting close enough to see how far away I am!

 
24412/18/2008 2:17:00 PMToe Clip GuySlingShot is The Michael Ball of cycling related websites.

 Now what have I done?

 
24402/18/2008 11:45:00 AMTurtle
Boy
Yesterday was the Prologue, and Fabian Cancelara won it. In a distance of around 2.1 miles, his average was over 35 miles per hour (51.43km\h). Try that for your speed workouts!

 We are working on it. Reminds me of years ago when that kid Iron Mike showed up for the Wednesday Night Time Trial (led by Dangerous Dan) and wasted the field by posting a 27+ average for the 8 miles. Now Mike is older and faster, but people still like to think a 23+ Hump is some sort of big deal.

In any case, we got a photo of SlingShot working on technique.

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24382/18/2008 1:29:00 AMddoTGlad I could provide something to stir up the grey matter. Now, as for the 600lb leg presses, they obviously don't translate into anything usefull on the bike. I went out for a quick 15 mile loop today, and I have never felt so lousy on a bike before.

 My suggestion: Stop doing leg presses with Toe Clip. You are killing him.

Otherwise, despite your temporary experience of today, the leg presses are very helpful for your cycling, plus running, swimming, and other Iron Man type activities… not to mention the added value when you actually do have to kick somebody in the ass.

 
24372/17/2008 10:51:00 PMddoTDoes anybody have an elevation profile for the Hump route available?

 We'll be working on elevations come spring. In the meantime, I remember hearing at one time that Zipper had a Computrainer course set up for Ridgebury, or something like that.

Also, when we used to do the Maniac Rides on Thursday's starting at Round Hill School in Washingtonville, Scott Macmillin showed up with an elevation showing we were doing something like 1200 feet of climbing. He might have a similar understanding of the Hump.

Also, there are elevation maps available somewhere, such as the ones Chuckie used to find Glade Hill Road, so Gapper might also have knowledge about this sort of thing.

Zipper should be easy to track down, and I'm sending you Scott's e-mail address via a private channel. This is the most exciting question anybody has ever placed in the ChatterBox.

 
24362/17/2008 8:50:00 PMJOI've got something.

Overheard at Turtle Boy Computrainer School, "Gee, Humberto, I don't know what you did to me today, but my ass is killing me."

 Who said that? Sounds like Doug?

 
24352/17/2008 7:12:00 PMSlingShotI don't know what's wrong with me. I just finished a hard 47 miles in the hot sun, after I dumped the Widder when she finished her workout. And I'm telling you, I really tried, but I totally failed.

I didn't drink a thing. I ground myself to a nub. And I got so fucking dehydrated I took of 6 lbs and had the chills, but I still couldn't give myself cramps. How does Toe Clip do it?

 You've probably been taking your vitamins, or maybe you're not old enough yet.

 
24342/17/2008 5:13:00 PMPCPSlingshot, maybe someone should tell Toe Clip that Ddot is in his 30's.

 Shame on you. You should be ashamed of yourself for playing the age card. ddoT is as old as he is, and Toe Clip is as old as he is. It's got nothin' to do with nothin'. Toe Clip is no less a man for it, and ddoT is no less a competitor for kicking his grandpa's ass.

I would never put a damper on Toe Clip's spirits by mentioning how far over the hill he is. Here's what I would say:

Toe Clip, don't you worry about any of the negative nonsense you hear from Cranky and all her cynical little friends. Don't give your advancing age a second thought. Don't even try to compare your own performance to ddoT's. Things will work out for you if you just work hard, eat the right food, and mind your own splits. >>>

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24332/17/2008 2:42:00 PMToe Clip GuyWith all due respect, Princess Cranky Pee, I would ask that you refrain from coupling "Broke Back" with Brooklyn. There are no mountains in Brooklyn; and, like the Iranian president would claim, no gay people—with the exception of course the women that likey the women as well as likey the men. Those are always welcome in Brooklyn, and everywhere else for that matter!!

With regards to my leg cramps: They started 2 weeks ago. I had to back off a bit, take some clacium/ mag. /zinc supplements as well as load up on bananas and rehydrate.

Ten days later I was back as good as new, so I got back to my regular routine and slacked off on the supplement remedy. Yesterday, the cramps came back after an hour and a half into a session. So I'm back on the remedy. We'll see what happens today.

I'll be over in a minute, but please…. no voodoo remedy, maybe just a little witchcraft.

 Please excuse my impertinence on this matter, but in the grand tradition of the great Toe Clip who incessantly repeats his mantra "Brooklyn," I must say once again that the answer to this problem is tres simple: NO MORE LEG PRESSES WITH DDOT!!!... motherfucker.

 
24322/17/2008 10:11:00 AMCaliperGirlToday is the Daytona 500. Got anything?

 Didn't I tell you this yesterday?

We almost had something.

Our friend Nuclear Dan Buckley once had dreams of competing in the 500, and he even went so far as to go to a driving class.

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24312/17/2008 2:59:00 AMSarah
Cyclist
Wow. That is it!

I've never posted here before, but I have been reading along and watching the Widder's progress. I showed this stuff to some trainers and other athletes I know, and they agree that the fundamentals are sound, plus the unique and creative approach you have taken in helping Mary is exceptional.

My question: Do you ever plan on offering this sort of instruction and training as a service? If so when?

 No. Never. 
24302/17/2008 12:53:00 AMddoTQuestion: Is the Widder going to be doing this as a solo time trial effort? If so, she can borrow my tri-bike and my new aero helmet! I'm gonna watch and sell lemonade on the homestretch. How about "widder rocks" on a giant foam finger? We will also need an un-biased official (maybe Jimmy Sturr, florida ny's favorite son), and somebody to ride behind, not in front giving draft help, to watch for the ever popular shortcuts that abound on the hump route. There will also be a 10 second penalty for coming near my house, and a ten second time bonus if a camel spits at you. Here are the specs: Solo Time Trial, standard modern road bike. No drugs. This ain't a World's One Hour Record Attempt.

It is merely a 23+ Hump (1:29:13.04, line to line) which is merely a time that can be achieved by any average competitive rider, on an average modern racing bike, wearing average appropriate riding attire, but with strong commitment, and exceptional instruction.

[Either self taught through careful review of the literature, or having somebody help through the particulars.]

It will also be accomplished without an audience, probably on a day when nobody even knows it is about to happen. It is for the Widder's satisfaction alone. There will be no audience, no fans, no judges, no nothing—just Mary and the course. The technical term for this is self actualization.

However, we may be showing up for various Early Bird Specials etc for reconnaissance and test loops while working out the final details of the course elements and performance requirements.

The only way anybody is going know that it has happened is if we tell them. The only way they will believe it is if they have a brain in their head. We really don't care if anybody else on the planet ever even hears about it. Mary will know she did it, and that's all she needs.

When I started putting my notes about it online, Mary asked, "With all the nonsense on American Road Cycling how are people going to know this is real?"

I said, "They won't… well, actually those with a brain will know, because the training program will be obviously correct to anybody who knows enough about cycling and athletics in general to know the truth when they see it."

You should have seen her stark look of realization when I continued, "Look, the only way to get 100% total recognition for accomplishment (and belief in its truth) would be to do something so incredibly far outside the realm of expectation that nobody could deny it. You know, something like winning the Tour de France seven times. Then people would have to believe you are capable."

And no, that's not when she had the stark look of realization. At that point she just nodded yes. Her epiphany happened a microsecond later when I finished, "Right? Ok… did Lance take the drugs, or not?"

Did we land on the moon? Was the world created in seven days? Have we been left on this planet by space beings?

We live in a world where people believe some guy got executed more than 2000 years ago, but he didn't die, and he's waiting for us in heaven, for after our own death.

They are also certain that their belief gives them the right to kill people who do not believe.

People will believe anything. Therefore, they will disbelieve anything.

We can only train for a ride, ride it, and monitor our own success.

Everything else is fashion.

 
24292/17/2008 12:53:00 AMPCPOK. Sounds like a plan. Tomorrow I'm going over to DdoT's and hanging out by the fireplace sauna.

Toe Clip, come'on over, and we'll feed you potassium and magnesium to get rid of those cramps.

How can you get cramps in the winter time anyway? And what the hell are you bringing up Broke Back Brooklyn already for? People aren't even back from Snow Birdin' long enough yet to have their Brooklyn Vibe goin' on. Patience my man, Patience.

 A few vitamins ain't goin' to be the cure for what ddoT's passing around. The only cure would to just say to him, "Nice leg press. If you don't mind, I think I'll pass them up for today."

As for the Brooklyn references, Toe Clip absolutely must begin mentioning it now. If he doesn't give people plenty of warning, nobody will have enough time to come up with excuses.

 
24282/17/2008 12:33:00 AMStoned
Stoner
Ok, I went back and looked at the figures again.

Actually, 1 yard/sec is closer to 2 miles an hour, so I plugged in 100% grade, 2 mph, 600 lbs, and got 1680.086 watts.

 See? That makes more sense, even though there is probably some fudging of the numbers at the leg press machine level, because those machines usually have a pulley system or something that is actually making the slope not quite 100%.

In any case, I have had direct experience (on Heart Attack Hill) about how power to weight ratio is a pretty significant factor on a cycling climb. I could leg wrestle the Widder into a crumpled heap any day of the week, and yet I couldn't gain an inch on her at the top of Heart Attack, even when I was fresh, strong, and only 175 lbs. The bitch.

Zirra, who squats 1000 lbs, had a similar experience in Harriman last summer. Of course, ddoT's goal does not include kicking Mary's ass on Heart Attack. He has bigger fish to fry which includes some running and swimming besides. He is well on his way.

The Widder merely plans to time trial a 23+ Hump. She is also well on her way.

Hop back on your hookah, asshole.

 
24272/16/2008 11:45:00 PMStoned
Stoner
Here you go. I went to that cycling calculator and plugged in 100% grade, .29 mph (about one yard per second), and a weight of 600 lbs. The answer in watts is: 243.612.

Of course I am a genius, and you guys ain't.

 There you go: something sort of rational.

Look what that number implies. Watt meters on bicycles are measuring the watts post leveraging via the crank, chain, and cassette assembly, because the Widder is definitely not pumping enough watts in her pedals to equal a 600lb leg press. And sure as shootin' SlingShot did not hit almost 4 times that on his Clearwater Bridge climb the other day.

It also might imply: 1) Your first simple math calculation to derive 1 m/s out of mi/h is fucked, or 2) you are an idiot for trying to do a calculation without knowing how.

 
24262/16/2008 11:17:00 PMSlamCrankJeez-a-fucking-us, SlingShot, what got you going on that? Did you think something like, "Shit, 600lbs, I wonder how many watts that would be. Let's see: a good guess would be he's doing reps at about 1 or 2 meters per second, 'Uh-one, Uh-two, Uh-three,' and that's sure to be a whole lot simpler formula than the cycling calcs—what with no need to account for air-pressure and all. Hmmm, Cranky's a mathematician, she should know this one off the top of her head. Fuck, she's probably in a doughnut coma. Somebody has to have this online already."

 Exactly. 
24252/16/2008 11:08:00 PMARC StaffPlease don't get this "I pumped this much iron" stuff started. We are afraid it will affect SlingShot in a negative manner.

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24232/16/2008 10:12:00 PMToe Clip GuyBTW: That was a great broadcast of the Ironman Champs on TV today, I don't care what anybody says, especially the cynics among us. That was great.

Ddot, that'll be you someday!

 What cynics? There's nobody reading this website who is smart enough to be cynical.

Who said that would NOT be ddoT someday?

 
24222/16/2008 9:49:00 PMToe Clip GuySlingshot, I would not mess with Ddot if I were you. He's got an Ironman regimen going on which includes leg press reps over 600lbs.

BTW: Sorry I couldn't scout the stretch of hill work you had asked, as I haven't been by those neck of the woods by myself much.

On an aside, I'm dealing with leg cramps right now and it has affected my training schedule. I may have to put off my first spring race for a couple of weeks.

One last thing, I am of the belief that the black widow should seriously consider official women's races. (I won't say like the ones in Brooklyn or even Central park because I wouldn't to hear your shreik all the way from the sunshine state.)

Can you say Bethal Spring Series??

 Shit, I do 600lbs just getting off the fucking couch.

Don't worry about the Cross Road hill specs. For some reason Twin Lynn went wacky and told us the truth.

If you don't mind my making a suggestion, I think I can clear up them leg cramps for you. Ok? Now, you can take this advice or not, because I know you study this shit and are not a total idiot about it, but in this case I believe I may have a certain understanding of the situation which may be of help. Remember, I don't want to insult you, but if you are amenable to taking a small bit of advice from someone you barely know… well, let me just say it. Stop doing leg presses with ddoT. My guess is them leg cramps will clear up in short order.

I know it's supposed to be cold in NY, but I'm sure it's not nearly the state of freezing-over which would be required for the Widder to risk life and limb in a group of riders she neither knows nor cares about.

Besides, she's got considerably bigger fish to fry than those little races over in Bethel. She's working on a 23+ Widder's Hump. It's a time trial of sorts, and much more prestigious.

Otherwise, great to hear you mention Brooklyn. Truly, can spring be so very far off, after you have shown that hope springs eternal?

 
24212/16/2008 8:59:00 PMddoTCaliperGirl, tomorrow is the Daytona 500, not today.

PCP, tell Coach Troy to kiss my ass would ya. You need to ditch the 58 degree basement and come to my house when I have the woodstove cranked up, and it's 90 degrees in the living room.

 CaliperGirl is banned for making SlingShot look stupid. [Attention shoppers: softball alert]

ddoT, when you get your woodstove glowing translucent red, do you put some rocks on it and toss on little ladles of water while you're working out?

PCP, grab your birch twigs with fresh leaves and high tail it over to ddoT's, so you can thrash him like a rented mule.

Everybody, must you always leave it to ddoT to catch these fuck-ups. No, maybe not. Probably all of you actually believed that 25 mph avg nonsense.

 
24202/16/2008 6:40:00 PMJOHey, it's not nice to disappoint Palletman. I stopped over at Dr. Art's, and he had some extra pixels and the photo you sent him from after your ride last week.

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24192/16/2008 6:25:00 PMPCPSling, it is good that you convinced Mary that its not just about miles. The first time she met me, she rode over in the parking lot and said, "I rode 4,000 miles already this year." Uh, huh… and what does one say to that? So I said "Yeah, but how many doughnuts have you eatin' sweetie?" Sorry that was my fault. I sent her over with instructions, "Go tell that bitch over there how many miles you've got in this year, so she won't get out of line."

Now I've got Mary convinced the only thing important is a 1:29:13.04 Hump, line to line. It's the only thing she ever talks or thinks about.

I did fuck up and give her my secret formula to cycling, but she swears she won't tell anybody.

She said, "Let me get it straight: the fewest possible watts per mile an hour, the fewest possible heart beats per watt, the least amount of effort per heart beat. Ok, I won't tell a soul."

I'm sure my secret's safe with her, but I really shouldn't have let her have it.

 
24182/16/2008 3:25:00 PMPalletmanWell, we really do believe that you are getting up and going to the Mall etc. etc. Mary is another question. Lets get a full photo of you posted.

 There are not enough pixels.

 
24172/16/2008 1:34:00 PMTwin LynnSlingShot, I clocked it for you. It's only 1/10th of a mile. It just seems like forever.

 If you were not the sister of Twin George, I would take this at face value. However, I did the best check I could on Yahoo maps, and odd as it seems, you have given us the truth.

I'm not sure what your game is, but I'll figure it out.

 
24162/16/2008 12:09:00 PMPCPGoin' down to the basement where it is 58 degrees vs. 17. If Coach Troy is down there, I'll tell him ddoT sends hugs and kisses.

 After your workout, take your car over to Florida and get us a reading on the distance of that hill up to cross road, from where the hill would catch you on your bike, to the turn at the top. I'm guessing it's about 2 tenths mile.

Also, stop at the deli and have a doughnut.

By the way, don't work too hard in the basement. We are just making up this whole 23+ Hump thing on the website. We aren't even riding our bikes. We just get up every morning, go over to the mall, have capuccinos, then go to the matinee to eat candy and popcorn.

That photo of Mary is just Photoshopped. I know what you're thinking, but she just forgot to take out the old skin.

 
24152/16/2008 11:14:00 AMPalletmanYou don't check the web logs anymore? Bullshit! That would be like keeping a hit of heroin on the bookshelf for an addict…they would let it just sit there, and not touch it.

Off to the 17 degree HUMP this am, hope I come back with everything intact.

 Thanks for reminding me where I put my needles.

In any case, check your trip computer at the bottom of the hill to Cross Road, and give us a report on how long that hill is: from the spot the hill grabs you, until the turn onto Cross Road.

Also, don't blame us for the 17 degree HUMP. It is our understanding this is the fault of Coach Troy, or something like that.

 
24142/16/2008 9:16:00 AMPalletmanMary does look fast in that photo! Can't wait till she gets home to see how fast she really is. I'm betting she'll be able to kick Georgy Girls's ass this year.

BTW: what ever happened to Georgy Girl? Bob must have scared him away I figure.

 That's a question I asked myself way back in December when the ChatterBox had to be reopened to give Mary something to do.

I checked the weblogs for awhile, but never saw Georgy Girl's IP show up. My guess was that she had an actual life and interests… very much unlike the people who never stopped being all over this site like a cheap pants suit, even when it was shut down.

I don't bother with the weblogs anymore. So it's anybody's guess.

 
24132/16/2008 3:00:00 AMCaliperGirlToday is the Daytona 500. Got anything?

 We almost had something.

Our friend Nuclear Dan Buckley once had dreams of competing in the 500, and he even went so far as to go to a driving class.

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24122/16/2008 1:18:00 AMJONice picture of the Widder. Looks like she was impatiently waiting for something. What was it?

 This. >>>

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24112/15/2008 8:50:00 PMddoTAnybody else wanna kick "Coach Troy" square in the nuts right about now? Now where's the fuckin sun!!!!!!??????

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24102/15/2008 2:14:00 PMSlamCrankYou might want to add a link here in the ChatterBox to the calculator you just found, in addition to the link you put on the Watts page.

 Ok. Knock yourself out comparing various watts vs. speeds. It includes assumptions not specified, but the results are within the ranges we have come to expect.

In fact the results seem to imply that the other charts were predicated on the assumption of riding in the drops or a solidly aero-position. >>>

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24092/15/2008 2:11:00 AMJOPeople are still wondering if the Widder can do it. Anything new on her 23+ Hump attempt?

 Absolutely. Got a new chart and everything. >>>

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24082/14/2008 10:40:00 PMSlamCrankWasn't that a little like date rape?

 Not at all. She wanted it. She was asking for it.

 
24072/14/2008 9:03:00 PMTwin LynnThanks, SlingShot, for telling everyone that I have bad teeth. Now everyone's gonna stare at them. Good thing I have a small mouth and always keep it closed.

By the way, how have your hemorroid treatments gone? I have a friend with the same problem.

 How many times do I have to tell you people. It's not hemorroids. I'm just having my head removed.

Sorry to hit that nerve. Personally, I never thought your teeth were that bad, but I have noticed people looking at them.

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24062/14/2008 12:26:00 PMToothless
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Hi Bob : )

Thank you for the referral to the dentist. He is great!

He checked every tooth in my mouth, and every time he checked a new tooth he said, "Oh, God."

He saved the full report on his computer, and for now he is going to give me a temporary fix, because I'm going to cycling winter camp in Portugal with Turtle Boy on the 22nd. When I get back I'm going to be getting the BFugett Dental Special.

I am getting a lawyer for the other dentist. I never did that to anybody, and I feel bad, but he really fucked me.

 Well, Mr. Beaner, you are quite welcome.

The first dentist in NY to look at my teeth exclaimed, "Holy motherfucking kripes! What country are you from?"

When I said, "I'm from Ohio," he said, "No, really. You can tell me. I'm not going to turn you in," and I explained, "No, really. Ohio."

Therefore, I assume by the Bfugett Dental Special you mean you are getting every single tooth in your head restructured, and you will be spending a lot of time over the next several years on the Dr. Gulak waterboard.

You are going to love it.

About that lawyer for the other dentist, make sure you ask the person who referred you to the other dentist what lawyer they would recommend. It's always good to discount choices quickly.

BTW: You know Twin Lynn also goes to Dr. Gulak. We all have to give Widder credit for finding him. She found him online. I just added him to the Sponsor's (Not) page, and here's his website. >>>

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24052/14/2008 3:00:00 AMSpoke
Poker
What ya got?

 Something for the ladies. >>>

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24042/14/2008 12:00:00 AMSlamCrankI hope you lunkheads got paid big bucks for that external commercial link. Besides, what the hell has that got to do with a 23+ in August?

 Point well taken. You have caught us being stupid.

Plus it has been brought to our attention far too many bogus innapropriate nothing to do with cycling corporate kits have been showing up in the Hump parking lot. >>>

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24022/13/2008 2:29:00 PMSmarty
Watts
I find it interesting that you would admit to that number on your watt meter, especially in light of today's questioning of Roger Clemmens on Capital Hill regarding his drug use. Have you yourself ever considered using drugs. Yes, I considered it carefully.

Due to my close proximity to mediocre (you can see on the meter), I have often felt that with a slight chemical boost I might reach not only the next level but actually surge past it all the way up to average.

However, I have carefully reviewed the matter, and quite frankly, average is rather unlikely and mediocrity is not that important to me.

 
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Punker
In that watt meter photo, do I see a subtle reference to a downhill?

 Yes.

 
23992/12/2008 5:59:00 PMFGI've been doing Ancient Chinese Secret Training Program… all for only $19.95!

Is that your blood pressure, or your blood glucose level? Either way, you better see a doctor, STAT!!---->>>

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Good luck with those Rhinocerous Horn injections.

As for the other matter, that is neither my blood pressure, nor my glucose level. That just happens to be absolutely irrefutable proof positive that if I work real hard, and over a period of a few more years, I may achieve mediocrity yet.

 
23982/12/2008 4:16:00 PMFGCranky, your doughnuts are especially delish today! Thank You!

 Where the fuck have you been? Here, read this. >>>

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23972/12/2008 4:09:00 PMTurtle BoyPlease, don't buy me crap bikes. My basement is full of them!

 Man, you drive a hard bargain.

I'll keep the bike for myself afterward, make it my main ride, and give you $200 cash.

That's one of my final offers.

 
23962/12/2008 3:10:00 PMTurtle Boy You got it!

But you don't have to buy me a shit bike. I will just ride my Meivici, or maybe Dangerous's bike. They are both around that price.

 Oh, I see… a hardball negotiation regarding your fee. I guess nobody will blame you for holding out for more money.

Ok, here goes round two.

I'll buy you the crap bike and pay you $100 cash when you complete the chore. I'm guessing it should be the easiest 100 bucks of your life.

BTW: I think your English may be a little rusty. It appears you have confused the word "price" with the word "quality."

 
23952/12/2008 11:35:00 AMSlingShotYO! Turtle Boy! I've got an idea!

This morning we were going over the new charts and figures. With the new graph I am now 100% confident we have Mary working in the right area for her 23+ Widder's Hump, so I began thinking about the next project.

I know you've been watching the calculation process, so you know it is solid and true no-bullshit logic, and the real world facts support it.

I was going to do this myself, but then I realized we could save everybody time if I contracted you to do it.

So here's my offer of a sponsorship:

I will buy you a $200 piece of shit road bike from Wal-Mart, and document your Hump when you ride a 23+ average (1:29:13.04 line to line) on a piece of crap bike from a degenerate big-box store.

How's about it? You game?

 Did you ever consider that Humberto might not want to get that famous?

Just in case people missed the new graph, I put a link over here. >>>

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23942/12/2008 2:08:00 AMSlamCrank100 miles per gallon! Am I the last person on the planet to hear about this?

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23932/12/2008 1:29:00 AMJOMy sources tell me Widder found a better watts vs. speed chart online.

 She sure did. >>>

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23922/11/2008 11:43:00 PMARC Staff
Widder Caught Cheating

Today SlingShot stepped out the back door in Floriduh and caught the Widder cheating on her training program by practicing exercises given to her by Humberto.

It is unknown how this divergence from the plan will affect her 23+ Hump attempt, but that's not the point.

These are the high stress intervals that Humberto uses during competitive group rides to give himself an actual workout.

He stops at opportune moments, does the exercises while the group goes on, then redoubles his riding effort in order to overtake the group and perform the intervals again. They are very akin to cross-training and are probably illegal in International competition.

When SlingShot walked out the back door and saw Mary doing them, he knew exactly where they came from, and ducked back inside to grab the camera in order to document her transgression. >>>

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You should probably mention that these intervals cannot be performed correctly without the appropriate equimpent, which is one glove per.

You should also show what happens when somebody gives you a ride nutrition gel you can't eat, but you throw it in your saddle bag for a year or two.

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23912/11/2008 6:45:00 PMTurtle BoyOK!

 Thank you. It will be a great help, especially for Paris. Tonight The Boss is going to disassemble her, so she will be able to train each part individually. Talk about your precision training, eh?

 
23902/11/2008 5:03:00 PMSlamCrankJeezus. Give Humberto a break.

 Ok. A two mile course.

 
23892/11/2008 4:58:00 PMARC StaffThanks for the e-mail, Humberto. If you get a chance (and know how, so it's easy) on a recovery day, set up a 4 mile flat course on the Computrainer, turn off drafting, set the Metal Man in a series of tests starting at 150 watts up through 260 in ten watt increments, and report the Metal Man's results. Frankly, we couldn't give a shit about your own.

 You think Humberto is going to respond well to that kind of talk? Maybe, you should give a shit about his own results.

 
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23852/10/2008 9:41:00 PMPCPHey! SlingShot! I didn't say you could eat one of my dougnuts! Put that back! OK. FG can have one, but just ONE.

 Ok, I'll put it back, but you have to promise to tell Lynn about Thanksgiving Day and, "WAAAH! What is this… the sprint?"

She's never been around me without her fancypants hills.

Plus, see if you can get Toe Clip to go out for a reconnaissance ride, and have him report the length of the hill just before cross road (from the point it steals your pace), and how long it takes to get to the top at some speed or another.

After that, tell him to stop reading, and give him the rest of the doughnuts.

 
23842/10/2008 9:18:00 PMARC StaffQuote of the day: "Mary, sit down! You're competing with yourself."

 Thought of the day: "Oops. How the fuck did he know that?"

 
23832/10/2008 9:16:00 PMJOJeez, Cranky, looks like the writing's on the wall. Read it and weep. 
23822/10/2008 8:46:00 PMTwin LynnSlingShot, when you help the Widder with her training, are you following her in a car, or on a motorcycle perhaps? If, on the other hand, you are following her on a bicycle, and not using binoculars and a radio, then I think Cranky has nothing to worry about.

Actually, I don't really care about Widder v. Cranky. I won't be anywhere around to witness it. I'll be about three miles back.

What I'm looking forward to is witnessing the spanking that Mama will no doubt be dishing out upon your saggy ass.

 To answer your first question: I need neither car, nor motorcycle, for I am staying with the Widder in my dreams. I imagine the same will be true with Mama.

What has Cranky got to do with any of this anyway? Just like the Widder, she's got her program and is sticking to it. >>>

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23812/10/2008 8:28:00 PMPalletmanI'm a fat, middle aged loser, who wonders why, if they can have five hours of tennis on Vs. why the hell can't they find some cycling to show.

Tour of California starts Feb. 17th!

 Oh, that's right. Now I remember you.

We watched the intro to the race yesterday. They showed some old footage, and then introduced everybody who will be accused of doping in a few weeks.

 
23802/10/2008 6:31:00 PMToe Clip GuyDoes Slingshot think he's a dreamcatcher now? Or what?!

Black Widow: stay on track for the 23+ Hump. Just Do It. (Drop Paris.)

 The Widder's on track. On today's recovery ride she did an easy 6 mile warmup at 80-90 watts, then a 10 mile out and back at 160 watts which averaged 18.4 for the twenty. About three quarters of the way through, I thought, "Shit. She's wearin' me down. This ain't no fun no more."

I pulled the last six mile cool down and her watt meter showed a 440 at some point… of which she was totally unawares.

Bitch is getting strong and, more to the point, efficient.

Do you happen to know who that Palandrome or P'mattress (or whatever his name is) is?

 
23792/10/2008 3:43:00 PMPalletmanPost spin today everyone was very excited about the Black Widow's attempt to break 23 mph on the Hump. The discussion went on and on about how serious an attempt this would be. Is this just SlingShot's attempt to kill time in the Floriduh sun? Does she really have the capability physically to do it? Etc, etc.

After a considerable amount of time, Steve Jinks pointed out that all of SlingShot's calculations were off because he hadn't factored in the Black Widow riding with Paris Hilton… it was at this point that the conversation turned to PCP's new Mavic wheels.

 Who are you again?

 
23782/10/2008 2:50:00 PMSlingShotI am just fucking excited beyond belief!!! A secret cycling society and training school just e-mailed me the measured performance results of some very serious cyclists, and it confirms all of my current calculations.

 After resolution of privacy matters, I hope to publish those results in an upcoming article.

 
23772/10/2008 12:01:00 PMPCPSee now, we wouldn't have all this Wattage Flexing if everyone would just shut up and eat the donuts—which, by the way, they made me eat SlingShot's NY allocation of (while he's in Floriduh), and look what happened to me.

Forget 23+ mph, I'm just hoping the seatpost holds up.

 I would love to post a comment, but we are getting ready for today's 32 mile easy spin out on the Suncoast Trail, and I am sure you have to be getting on that trainer… no, not the refrigerator… the stationary trainer.

See it? It's down there in the basement. That thing covered in cobwebs.

ddoT, could you come in here and give us a hand, please? Show Cranky where her trainer is.

BTW: Cranky we hear you've been helping Toe Clip with his stretching exercises. >>>

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23762/10/2008 10:59:00 AMJOSlingShot, I enjoyed the 02/09/08 Pinellas Trail article, but I hope you didn't miss ddoT's reference.

 I probably did. The Widder pointed out this morning that ddoT appeared to be speaking of certain elements in The Early Bird Special who may be overstating its specs in casual conversation. We won't mention who that might be.

 
23752/10/2008 12:10:00 AMSomebody
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Don't tell me! Is Bob doing what I think he's doing?

 Yes. He's writing the book on the Hump.

Makes you proud to be part of it, doesn't it?

 
23742/9/2008 10:15:00 PMddoTOr she could just take off by herself 30 minutes before anybody else and TELL everyone she went 23 plus. Seems to work for "other birds," I mean, other people.

 Except she'd only be hurting herself. Ultimately, one's performance is only important to oneself, and lying to oneself is always the worst mistake.

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23732/9/2008 9:58:00 PMCar
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So what, then? Cranky's worried?

 Not at all. She knows all she has to do is time trial the Hump a little over 23+.

 
23722/9/2008 9:22:00 PMGargantu
Chamois
Is the Widder really worried about Cranky?

 Get real. There are riders, and there are readers. If you are wondering which you are, read this:

You already did.

 
23712/9/2008 9:15:00 PMSlimChimpWhat the fuck is Lynn's problem?

 Leaver her alone. She was just crowned Queen of Trash and Crack.

 
23702/9/2008 8:49:00 PMTwin LynnWhoa! The Widder is already showing signs of neurosis. Obviously she's heard that Cranky is training like a fiend and all toned up, and she's freaking out thinking, "NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRAIN DOWN HERE IN FLORIDUH THAT BITCH IS STILL GONNA DROP ME."

 Not true. She just realized Cranky's a birdbrain.

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23692/9/2008 8:38:00 PMddoTI swear, I will not pull anybody's fat ass up Ridgebury because they were too busy gossiping and eating Ho-Hos to get on their trainer and put in the effort. April is coming…….fast!

 Finally. Somebody said it out loud. ddoT is now placed in charge of smacking your sorry asses until we return.

ddoT is hereby authorized to enlist Toe Clip's help to come over and slap all you fuckers senseless.

 
23682/9/2008 2:31:00 PMPCPHmmm, that pink hairdo looks pretty good. Wonder if my hairdresser could do that blunt cut for real.

And yes, Toe Clip, that is me, Sr. Ursala. At one point in my life it occurred to me that I could have become a nun and I would have enjoyed whooping the others into shape. Kind of like that picture with the ruler.

 I would love to post a comment, but if we don't get out on our bikes soon, it's going to be too hot. Maybe we'll try to find a ride somewhere out of the sun.

 
23672/9/2008 1:25:00 PMToe Clip GuySister Ursela? Is that you? I always imagined you with big… bikes

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23662/9/2008 12:38:00 PMJOOk, that's over. Good. But what if people had loved it?

 We would have had stuff like this. >>>

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 No, you're not to blame. I think it was the bananas. >>>

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23642/9/2008 12:36:00 PMCaliperGirlMake that the last of that crap. We are all sick of seeing it.

 We've only got this one more. >>>

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23632/9/2008 12:08:00 PMToe Clip GuySlingShot, stop with your psych tactics, I know your Power FT is much higher than 90watts! Who are you kidding? You trying to surprise evryone when you get back up here? Tactics, tactics, tactics, huh?!

Cranky, I truly don't know how to respond, because I still can't believe that's the new you! Well, I'll still stand by you. You can train me.

On the other hand, you can try what our latest team trainer has been doing after he got a new promotion taking time away from coaching: send a surrogate on a regular basis, and hope nobody notices.

The hell with it, just come as you are.

 Reminds me of how I used to teach tennis.

One semester in college, I was the Assistant to the Assistant to the Coach for a Tennis and Handball P.E. class. Of course, the Coach never showed up. So that meant I was the Assistant to the person who would be teachig the class. Except he also never showed up, so I was the instructor.

Unfortunately, I had only ever played tennis twice in my life, so the night before classes I'd go to the library, read through the books on coaching tennis, put together a lesson plan, show up, give the lecture, and say, "Here, let me show you. Fred, you're pretty good with serving, you demonstrate while I explain."

At least I learned how to play handball, and a whole lot of people who would have failed the class passed it, because I signed-in anybody who didn't show up… on the theory that if the Coach, and the Assistant Coach weren't even bothering, why should these people get kicked out of college for not attending.

I also learned that three laps around four tennis courts is about 3 and a half laps too many for most people to run. My thought was, "Well, at least I'll get them in a little better shape." Two laps into it, I realized I did not want to be responsible for people dying before their 10 o'clock, so I sent them to the showers.

There was a reward for me, however.

For years afterward I used to win two tennis games from new acqauintences after I told them, "You know, I used to teach tennis in college," and before they figured out my total inability was not a tactical ruse, but a solid fact.

I'm sure Cranky will be welcome in your class, because she has got a whole new look. >>>

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23622/9/2008 12:17:00 AMJOThe most recent Daily Show included five minutes describing Mitt Romney as a douchebag. What have you got to say about that? Mr. Romney, I know Kevin Haley, and you are no Douchebag.








Legal Notice: No e-mails, cards, or letters, please. The comment above is repeated for comedic effect only; and, by stating it, American Road Cycling does not mean at all to imply, insinuate, attest, intimate, import, or suggest in any way whatsoever that Mr. Mitt Romney is not a douchebag. We know full well that he is.

 
23612/8/2008 9:42:00 PMTwin LynnI have $20 bucks says Mama Bianchi drops Sling's fat ass before Ridgebury.

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23602/8/2008 9:03:00 PMPCPSlingShot, you are looking better for my $1.00 bet on you vs. Mamma Bianchi on Big B.

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23592/8/2008 5:16:00 PMSlingShotYEAH!!! I stayed with Widder on her 300 watt Clearwater Bridge climb. In fact, she reports holding it to more like 310.

Then I stayed on her wheel while she posted a new personal best max of 578 on the return loop. I told her three weeks ago that I thought she'd get over 600 before we leave, and now she's starting to believe it.

Only problem was some motherfucking Scientologist convention fucking up traffic.

You'd think there'd be enough stupid ass religions to go around without people having to run out and make up there own. Looks like the new EST.

 You must be pretty proud of yourself. Time to up her bridge climb wattage to 325. 
23582/8/2008 1:22:00 PMBalaclavaNow that Cranky's put her goodies away, could you explain that nonsense on page 148 of the High-Tech Cycling book? Sometimes it's better to just point something out, and let people figure the rest for themselves. The fun with that book is that so much of it is so totally fucked up, there's a joke on every line. Here's one of the lines I believe you may be referring to:

Power = force x (distance/time) (6.2)

    Burke 2003, p. 148

So one might ask, "Why the multiplication times six point two? Could that be my air pressure constant I've been looking for? Wouldn't one expect it to have cosine or something like that attached to it?" And one might spend the next hour confirming, "Oh, that's just the number of the formula." [Probably left over from when they expected to write an actual book with editing prior to publication.]

Seems the text was written for skimming: "Look kids! Charts, graphs, and forumlas. This must be saying something! If somebody quotes it, I'm going to believe them. How much are those wheels in the window? They're shiny."

 
23572/8/2008 11:38:00 AMSlamCrankHell, it's already The Year of the Rat in China. That should suffice.

 Probably does.

 
23562/8/2008 11:36:00 AMCaliperGirlI just about didn't make it through Twin Lynn History Month. I hope this doesn't signal the start of The Year of the Cranky!!!

 That is our hope as well.

 
23552/8/2008 11:05:00 AMPCPToe Clip - no one will hire me for a trainer job. Do you think in my next employment profile I should smile more or less? ====>

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23542/7/2008 11:10:00 PMJORomney's out of it. Now what? That's easy.

If John McCain actually becomes President, just shoot yourself in the head. If Huckabee's the one, pull the trigger twice.

If Hillary wins, just flee the country and look for someplace that's never heard of us. If Obama wins… well, don't worry about that. That might be kind of interesting, so that means it is unlikely to happen.

I have never ever voted for anybody who actually became President, except for once, and I have been embarrassed about it ever since.

Anyhoo, the only problem with Obama winning will be enduring 4 or 8 years of people saying, "This country has become an Obama nation."

 
23532/7/2008 10:17:00 PMPCPEverybody needs to stop reading and start listening to Jazz stations, so they don't take them away. Oh - and don't forget to eat doughnuts.

 Take the stations away, or take all of us away?

You know, there are those delusional among us who really do believe that ARC does not remain at the ready. >>>

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23522/7/2008 10:03:00 PMARC StaffDon't you owe Toe Clip a thank you?

 Yes, I do. I went out today and did a test. Turns out that Cranky actually was referring to my functional power threshold wattage when she mentioned 101.9.

Thank you, Toe Clip, for saying it could not be. In fact, my calibrated and controlled observation of a rather large sampling period revealed that mine is somewhat lower.

 
23512/7/2008 9:47:00 PMSlamCrankOk… I've been pouring over that High-Tech Cycling book and have already found three separate references to watts vs. speed, and all three are at odds.

One page states 160 watts for 20 mph, another page charts it around 180 watts, another page states 250 watts for 18.6, and all the references are out of whack with that table you found in that original article.

 There are several possibilities: 1) no editor was on duty, 2) the book was designed to discourage reading it, while ensuring you wouldn't get a straight answer if you did, 3) the text was meant as a diversion while somebody swipes your wallet.

A kinder thought would be that all this work was done before a usable watt meter was available that could measure an actual ride.

Sort of like how GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) were developed long before computers existed, and therefore most of what GAAP is about turns out to be merely double entry techniques meant as double checks against numbskull accoutants. Totally worthless if you only want to know: 1) How much did spend? 2) How much did I make? 3) How much do I have?

If you ever called anybody on the nonsense in this book, you would only get, "You don't understand. It's not the poppycock that is important. Nor is it the balderdash. It is the interpolation of the balderdash against the poppycock which will make you faster. Don't bother looking for it... I have your wallet."

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23502/7/2008 1:53:00 PMToe Clip GuyCranky was referring to a radio frequency, not your functional power threshold, SlingShot. Right, Cranky?

 Yeah, that makes sense. Guess Cranky's graduated from skim reading to skim writing.

In the meantime, I found this:

P = A1V + A2V2 + A3V3

    Bassett et al. 1999

After today's workout, I'll be refining that formula even further by factoring out the values that are inconsequential. By that, I mean the ones that should be quoted in dollar signs for clarity sake.

It's amazing what one can stumble upon while taking a pre-ride dump.

 
23492/7/2008 11:09:00 AMARC StaffYO! TURTLE BOY!

Obviously, ddoT was fucking with us. He knows exactly what's going on, but apparently Doug Allen is clueless. He wrote e-mail to Mary this morning asking if we've been riding!!!

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23482/7/2008 10:58:00 AMddoTThis is actually my new bike in my shop. Hope project Mary 23+ Humpdee Dumpdee Ride is coming along as planned?

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23472/7/2008 10:29:00 AMPCPWHAT! Are you saying they took 101.9?? That's nuts! Who would do that!! I have not been in the car too much this week to notice b/c I've been reading and eating doughnuts as you can see.

 Anybody got a clue what Cranky's talking about? Either she's been skimming again, or she's been dipping them doughnuts into the scotch… again.

 
23462/7/2008 12:24:00 AMBalaclavaAbout that watts vs. speed article in the Widder's Hump, I found this calculator by first going to a High School Physics website then following logical links.

I plugged in figures for SlingShot and the Widder with regard to the Clearwater Bridge test.

The bridge appears to be a 10% grade, so by plugging in 10.5 mph, and her 145 lbs (considering her bike, clothes, skinny ass, etc.), the calculator came up with 299.959 watts which is very close to the Widder's 300 watts target which she is now able to spin all the way to the top.

I then plugged in 225 lbs for SlingShot to see what watts he needs to churn in order to keep up with her.

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But keep looking for a similar calcuator that includes air resistance for an average human body—somewhere between Zirra's 10 square feet at 10,000 lbs and Miguel's 2 inches tall at 1½ lbs.

And thank you for the effort.

 
23452/6/2008 4:39:00 PMToe Clip GuyNo way, Cranky. Tell me it ain't so!!! If it is, it's time to get back on the bike.

 Looks like somebody has been following directions.

 
23442/6/2008 2:50:00 PMToe Clip GuySorry to change the subject, but I'm freaking pissed. New York's only contemporary jazz station for over 20 years was pulled yesterday unceremoniously, and replaced by another classic rock station. When the whipping boy gets back to New York, he's going to get what's due to him!!!!

 Nice plan, but if they have shut down the jazz station, why would I bother to come back. New York didn't have that much going for it already. Couple bicycle races in Brooklyn, and that's about it.

 
23432/6/2008 10:03:00 AMARC StaffAnd don't forget... I won't.

Everybody do this right, and you won't be sorry.

This link is to the newest in Celebrity Focus which now includes rollover hints on the numerical navigation strip for the identities we thieved.

The link puts you on #7: Gapper and Download Kim.

Do yourself a favor and step through in numerical order from there up to #10. You'll be glad you did. >>>

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23422/6/2008 9:52:00 AMBalaclavaDid them watts books ever get there? Yes, the books arrived, but before you read this take another look at ddoT's new bike which was linked in the previous post.

The Watts vs. Speed article is rather inflammatory and may appear to be about things like ddoT's bike, but it's not.

If you EVER have a chance to get a bike like ddoT's, absolutely you must do it. You owe it to yourself and everyone else. Also, if you ever get a chance to own a Ferrari for going to the deli, get one of those also. The only difference is you are not ever going to drive your Ferrari in that big race at Le Mans, but there is a chance you might achieve Tour de France performance on your bike.

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23412/5/2008 10:21:00 AMARC StaffSlingShot, we tracked down the story on ddoT's new "toy."

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23402/5/2008 12:36:00 AMBalaclavaSlingShot, with all this talk about the Widder's goals, don't you have any of your own.

 Yes, I do have goals, but they are significantly more optimistic than Mary's paltry little 23+, so people have a tendency to scoff.

I hope to someday stand up from the couch without having first to poise my right hand on a cushion and my left palm counter-corner over above my left knee, then drive the plunger down firing the escape velocity powder charge that is hidden somewhere in my right butt cheek, and riding the shock wave up to the point I can engage the trajectory adjustment jets thrusting me over to my left just as my right knee begins to complain but my left knee finally reaches the spot I can put some weight on it. I also hope to remain standing at that moment without my glutes orbiting little circles around my lightening bolt back pain until I can settle into an actual walk.

People have chided me for being so utopian, but I explain, "You know I might be able to do it. It's not like it's rocket science or anything like that."

In any case, I have been convinced to have a fall back goal.

Someday it is my dream to walk up and down a staircase without chanting quietly to myself, "Whooops, uh, oh... look out. Be careful, hold on...uh, uh, uh, ohoh, ah...ah...ohf."

 
23392/4/2008 10:12:00 PMPretty BoyYes ddoT, trooper biathlon it is. If I could only find time to run. Do I want to know what your new "toy" is?

 Best I just leave this alone till I get some sort of a clue what it's about. I can't even confirm the IP#.

 
23382/4/2008 9:14:00 PMddoTI will pull. I will pull like an ox. Just for you, then, we wen't out today and confirmed she could do the 170 watts.

Widder did great. She's getting so good at controlling her performance it's like ordering from the dinner menu, "Uh... I'll take the extra 10 watts if you don't mind. Oh, good. Perfect. Another .4 mile an hour."

The hardest part was getting her to keep her foot off the accelerator after the last turn-around (and last of any possible tail wind) when we were sitting on a 20.1 average with only 3 miles to go back into the wind, "Take it easy there, Mary. Hold your watts. Hold your watts. Let the average drop. It is going to be exactly what we predicted. What's your HR. 163? That's no good. Get in your drops and practice your breathing. Did it drop? 159? Good. Hold that. Relax, watch your watts, and pull your right leg through. Good. Perfect"

I think she went to bed around seven. I don't know, because I was asleep.

 
23372/4/2008 12:46:00 PMBalaclavaIs that really true, what you told ddoT? That is the world's most powerful sports drink?

 Yes, absolutely. In fact, it is so powerful that it is included in every other performance enhancement drink.

 
23362/4/2008 11:16:00 AMTurtle BoyI will give her a new Meivici!

 Tired of it already? She would probably prefer a real bike. Maybe a Trek, Cannondale, or Seven. Or my favorite, a Calfee!

In any case, thank you for the kind offer to help pull. We humbly accept.

We will include you in the Celebrity Focus before you know it.

 
23352/4/2008 10:16:00 AMddoTI would love to see the Widder pull off the 23+ Hump. I hope I'm there when it happens, and I'll buy her a cup of Endurox, or Recoverite, or whatever works for her post ride drink of choice. It's just nice to see the determination and motivation that's going into it. It's inspiring.

 Widder's after ride drink is the most powerful performance drink known to man: water.

Hoping it will happen is one thing, helping it happen is another, so we humbly accept your kind offer to pull.

As a reward for your support, we have posted a new Celebrity Focus section. >>>

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23342/3/2008 1:33:00 PMToe Clip GuyBrother Dott, I mean Ddot, it wasn't me. I truly have been trying to ride outdoors as much as I could, though work and cold weather have been kicking me back inside a bit.

I know one of their bikes has a pedal that's broken, as no doubt some palooka probably tried climbing out of the saddle. Now the others are broken as well? Slingshot, have you snuck up here without telling anyone, leaving trace elements of your presence?

On another note: Those guys over at team Deep Kakas N Yackoffs truly are marketing monsters or gurus or something. They have (BRIGHT!!!) orange townies with half the team name painted on them locked up on parking meters all over the city. (Orange color taken from @#$%). Twofold purpose is to promote more cycling in the city (make us all more green or something), and to promote the team.

Ballsier move would have been to paint part of the bikes in the team kit colors.

 Actually, the point of that promo is to sell less performance at a higher price to more unlikely individuals than ever before.

I like to call such displays: Signs of Desperation.

That little trick is merely a variation on a shop in a strip mall side stepping town signage laws by having a big-ass truck with bullshit promos plastered all over it parked out by the curb.

Not very original.

Plus, this particular promo is more likely to result in outlawing the locking of bikes to a parking meter than it is likely to be promoting cycling. Only a few knucklehads in bullshit forums are going to make note of it anyway.

I guess it is promoting green alright, just not green earh, so of course they probably have enough money to pay off a few news agencies to report (later) that it was a thing.

Toe Clip should know better than to play into their hands by mentioning them on this website. The less said about such shenanigans the better for cycling overall. Next time somebody mentions that sort of stuff here, I'll just toggle it off.

Apparently somebody is all bent out of shape that Toe Clip might be learning something, but that is not my fault. I left specific instructions for him not to read anything. Instead of that he ran out and signed up for actual course work. Worse than reading, he's actually studying.

The motherfucker… and his little friend Cranky too.

 
23332/3/2008 12:44:00 PMddoTWell woop de doo! I think I can avg. over 19mph by myself going UP the hawks nest right now. You guys better work a little harder than that. People up here are beginning to take this shit seriously.

Hey, Pretty Boy, are you racing the trooper biathlon this year or what? I got a new toy that I will hopefully have ready for that race.

Not that I personally witnessed it, but all of the stationary bikes at planet fitness were recently destroyed, and after watching surveilance tapes they said Toe Clip went through them like the Incredible Hulk, one by one ripping the cranks in half until there was none left for poor me to ride.

Oh well, back to the treadmill.

 You seem to have missed the memo.

We couldn't give a rats ass if people are riding hard, fast, slow, or in an iron lung. It's got nothing to do with us.

We care little if somebody passes us, breaks us, drops us, laughs at us, or whether anybody in particular may be ahead of our training program, behind our training program, oblivious to our training program.

We care only about The Widder posting a 23+ average on the Hump, or 1:29:13.04 line to line to be more precise.

We fully expect her to be dropped gone and history on at least Ridgebury. She's not even going to sprint at the end, so we are certain she will get her ass kicked by everybody who does that ride, that day, by merely a hundredth of a second faster than the time shown above.

We just have a feeling there will be fewer of those people than expected.

 
23322/3/2008 10:40:00 AMTurtle
Boy
HEY! I was just reading about Fort De Soto, and something changed.  Yeah. We were just reviewing yesterday's results, and Widder reminded me I forgot about our breathing exercises.

I just put in 6 new paragraphs, mostly so I don't forget about it myself.

So much goes on during one of these precision workout sessions, it's hard to get it all down. Maybe I should move off the bike and into a team car, with somebody else driving.

Maybe there'll be doughnuts in there.

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23302/2/2008 6:07:00 PMPalletmanSlingShot, let me know your address down there. I'll ship you down a case of Potato Chips. That's what my coaches used to munch on while we passed them at the start/finish line during workouts. They all went on to become legends in their own mind, similar to yourself.

Black Widow, absence makes the heart grow fonder, looking forward to your draft on 4/1.

 Can you blame your coaches for being so full of themselves?

They must be keeping tabs on your illustrious cycling career and giving themselves credit for having something to do with it.

Them chips sound like the perfect addition to my easy chair behind the Widder.

BTW: This hasn't been a subtle hint for me to go back through file footage to see if I can identify problems in your own performance, has it? .

 
23282/2/2008 1:55:00 PMToe Clip GuyVery Funny. You got me twice there. For one, I almost didn't make it to the end of your response to Balaclava… when I went, Huh???

Truly hope your training is going as well. You're going to get your proper dues when you come back.

 Heh, heh… heh, heh. It's almost as if somebody knew precisely where your AT (Asinine Threshold) was, and brought you right to the brink.

Today is Mary's 160 watt loop. She will be cracking soon.

 
23272/2/2008 1:26:00 PMThe Older
I Get
The Faster
I Was
I heard that Pretty Boy was over at The Turtle Boy World Training Headquarters during the week and did a lot of whining about the pain, but he actually loved it.

I got all excited and tried to get into this morning's session, but it was all full up. Does anybody know where I can find a scalper with bootleg tickets?

 You probably should have signed up before it became the thing. Next time, pay closer attention to the world around you.

 
23262/2/2008 12:38:00 PMBalaclavaI think maybe Ryan was being ironic.

 Well, maybe. Back in the day I always used to meet questions such as, "Aren't you being a little strident with your own self assessment?" with "Look, I'm a musician. If I can't toot my own horn, who the hell can?"

 
23252/2/2008 11:47:00 AMPCPTeacher, Teacher… I think I know!

He didn't wear a base layer under his skirt?

 Exactly. Move to the front. Nice panties. 
23242/2/2008 11:20:00 AMRyanBob, you are quite an amazing man indeed, but I still think that modesty is your best virtue.

 Yes, modesty is probably my best, but it is hard to decide, because there are so very many.

 
23232/2/2008 2:08:00 AMBalaclavaI have been reading this site for a few years now and am especially interested in the new Widder's Hump articles. I understand they are only training notes at this point, but I find them worth reading anyway.

The thing that really surprises me is how much SlingShot knows about training. When did that happen?

 Yeah, most people don't know the story about how excited I was the day (definitely in adulthood) when some neighborhood kids thought they were slapping me in the face by calling me a computer nerd. Before that I was always just known as a dumb jock, so nerd was a step up.

In fact, in High School the first time I ever actually used a study hall period for studying (of sorts) was when a track coach handed me a book simply called "Running," and I started learning about interval training and periodization, etc.

Previous to that I had already spent a summer in my dad's restaurant working for 25 cents an hour (really), saving to buy my first set of weights. By summer's end I had managed to save enough for the full set of Weider weights always advertized on the back cover of muscle mags.

Of course, that was some years after I started running (8 years old), which I remember was exactly after seeing a Hercules movie (probably with Steve Reeves) in which he ran some astounding distance for some spectacular reason.

I came out of the theatre and took off runing with the firm resolve to eventually get good enough to run the full mile home. I also figured that would be important in my career as astronaut, you know, for when I was going to be the first man to step foot on Mars.

I guess that doesn't quite lead up to the time in College when I was well on the way to a de facto minor in phys ed, when a coach took me aside and explained, "You are in some pretty deep academic water here. If you would just switch from a B.A. track to B.S. and declare a P.E. minor, we can make sure your grades in these classes will offset your F in French." To which I responded, "Look, I didn't come here to get a degree. I came here to learn something. If I do that I will have failed already."

Ironically that same coach later barred me from cross country, because I had several curls of hair that touched my shirt collar, and when he told me to get my hair cut, I told him to kiss my ass and to fuck off. Well, I didn't actually use that sort of language then, but that was one of the many events just like it that eventually led to me using such language. Looking back, I should have used that language right from the start.

I should probably mention the time I took an aptitude test in High School that they later stuck me in a room and made me take again. They said something like, "We had a problem with the grading. We just need you to try again, if you don't mind."

I didn't mind, because the test was a bunch of the kind of visual puzzles I like such as, "This is the tool. What things would it fit?" Or, "Here's a weird shape, what would it look like if we turned it over?"

I used to practice those kinds of puzzles on my own all the time. Such as before getting out of bed in the morning, I'd spend an hour trying to figure out how a door lock must work, and making little mental pictures of how it might.

It wasn't until much later that I realized they were sticking me in a room for monitoring, so they could confirm how I was cheating so well that I only missed one question. I was actually glad to take the test over, because I realized on leaving the first test that I had missed one, so I was glad to fix it on the second go around.

What was I talking about? Oh, right.

Yeah, I know a lot more about this stuff than people might imagine. Generally, it is of no consequence, but recently it has saddened me to see Toe Clip run off to take courses about training in an apparent attempt to smooth out his cycling performance—when he could have just asked me and saved the time and money.

In any case, I went back through some old ARC file footage. In retrospect it now appears perfectly clear why Toe Clip always struggles so much to keep up.

Excuse the quality of this vintage video. It starts with Kevin Haley being chased by the mob, then ends with Toe Clip holding down the rear.

I am pretty good at seeing if things are mechanically out of whack (remember that test?), and it is especially fun to find that sort of stuff in sport, but it will be more fun for people who are learning about cycling to see if they can identify Toe Clip's problem on their own, so I will not comment. >>>

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23202/1/2008 9:10:00 PMMama
Bianchi
To Mr. Boob Faggot,

Roses are a red,
Violets are a blue,
Stoppa pickin onna Twin Lynn,
Or I'm a gonna kick a you ass!

My son's a gonna kick a you ass anyway, but now I'm a gonna kick a you ass too. You think you funny.

Here, I gotta nice a ripe a banana for you...

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23192/1/2008 11:08:00 AMPalletmanHey, Lynn! Nice goosebumps. Oops, those ain't goosebumps.

 And you ain't Palletman.

 
23182/1/2008 10:50:00 AMPCPFG - You know what is really going on here? The Clintons. Yep… controls are being given over to the Mrs.

 It is the end of the fucking world.

 
23172/1/2008 10:43:00 AMARC StaffAnd now for something completely different.

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23162/1/2008 10:28:00 AMTwin
Lynn
I know you geezers down in Floriduh lose track of time. Is it Thursday? Is it Friday? What difference does it make! You have nowhere to go and nothing to do.

So let me help you… it's FEBRUARY, you losers! Go do something productive, if you know how.

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Some people have an evil twin. Others have an evil self.

Everybody pass your copies of Photoshop up to the front of the class. Now, please.

 
23151/31/2008 11:11:00 PMFGAs far as the REAL finale goes, you have totally outdone yourself, Mary. I have already downloaded it to use as my screensaver. I now have a new hero, and her name is WIDDER!

I am to assume it was her Kraftwerk (remember them?) and not yours, SlingShot? You've been up to your ass in some French and/or computer crap for the last six weeks, you couldn't possibly have had the time to come up with that. Blah blah blah…Merci bercoup…blah blah blah…ENIAC blah…that's all we've heard!

Blah!

 Yeah, I remember Kraftwerk, and it was Mary's hand upon the mouse. But it's not likely she would have those sorts of ideas. I got a lot of, "…do what? How? That will work? Really?"

I believe she did have Lynn upon the back of the beast, before I was called into the project.

I hope your browser shows the animation. After all, it was your idea.

 
23141/31/2008 11:03:00 PMFGNice tirade, very well done! Sounds just like me after hearing another stupid-ass Bill O'Reilly comment about some thing totally irrelevant to the topic he was asked about only seconds before… like what the hell does THAT have to do with the cost of tea in China!? Talk about Short Attention Span Theater.

 Unless you are an academic teaching a class in logic and need to give examples of the following 11 classic types of faulty argument:

1) ad populem (appeal to emotion)
2) ad misericordium (appeal to pity)
3) ad baculem (appeal to authority)
4) ad hominem (personal attack)
5) ad vercundiam (false, irrelevant authority)
6) overgeneralization (prejudice)
7) non-sequitur (fallacy of relevance)
8) post hoc ergo propter hoc (false causation)
9) band wagon
10) red herring
11) petitio principii (circular logic, begging the question)

I would suggest never listening to a single word escaping that man's mouth. It is bad for the soul.

On the other hand, if you are looking for great examples of these falacies in logic, you will find each of them mixed and repeated numerous times before any given commercial break.

A great drinking game would be to print out the list above, and check them off with a shot of whiskey everytime one is used on the show. One shot for Billy Boy, two if by a guest.

You should be quite snockered before the intro teases are finished.

Unfortunately, even in a teaching context it is still bad for the soul.

 
23131/31/2008 10:28:00 PMPCPNow that's more like it!!!

 No, it isn't. It is exactly like it.

 
23121/31/2008 2:43:00 PMSlamCrankYou'd better hope everybody has new generation browsers, or that ain't going to make any sense at all.

 So I have heard.

 
23111/31/2008 11:38:00 AMFGTHAT was your big Grand Finale you made me wait a month for?! What crap!!!

I have never been so disappointed in my entire whole life.

Has anything ever been more anti-climactic? Lynn sitting around with a lizard and a lawn gnome? I generally try not to say anything negative, but this is too much.

I expected more from you guys. Something special. Something like a "real" Grand Finale.

From all the buildup, I figured it would be something outrageous, like say: Twin Lynn sporting a Billy Jack hat and chain wheel spurs, riding on the back of Lance, smacking him with a chain link bit. Something weird like that.

Maybe include Ryan riding his tornado like the wicked witch of the west.

How pitiful. What the fuck has happened to you people?

You have really let us down.

 Yeah, right, ass-wipe! You missed the banana, but very creative. Why not just throw animation into the mix?

Who the hell do you think WE are? Lucusfilm? Fuck you! We did the best we could.

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23101/31/2008 10:48:00 AMPCPFG, look again. Maybe there is a nude beach in the background.

 Once again. Too perfect for a response. 
23091/31/2008 10:32:00 AMFGKinda ummm… how shall I say… anti-climactic? Talk about false advertising! I place this on par with Mickey D's saying their food is "healthy." I want a refund!

 What YOU think about it is totally irrelevant. I had your response prepared for you almost three weeks ago.

I was going to run it tomorrow, but NOOO… you just couldn't wait to see what you think. You had to come up with your own ideas. Since you are in such a snit, I've posted your Official Response above at #2311.

You will notice that you could have done better.

 
23081/31/2008 3:01:00 AMSlamCrankNow? Now.

And now, the long awaited, much expected, highly touted, insanely anticipated, last word and final drama, no more cliff hangers, ultimate answer, ergonomically correct heightened awareness Grand Finale of Twin Lynn History Month is here.

You are going to love it. >>>

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23071/30/2008 10:39:00 PMTwin
Lynn
Hi Mary,

You've been quite busy this month.

I hear that SlingShot has given up cycling. He's tired of getting his ass kicked. So now he's taken up a new sport down in Floriduh, one that is more to his speed. Glad to see he can excel at SOMETHING.

See attached photo.

Twin Lynn

 Just because tomorrow is a virtual mastadon of finalities on your little moment in the sun, did you really think we wouldn't? Couldn't?

Did you learn nothing from Ryan?

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23061/30/2008 8:35:00 PMJOOne of my contacts said that The Widder did it to you again. I have to admit: yes.

During today's 1 hour low-effort extended interval, more specifically at the East Beach turn-around in Fort De Soto Park, we flew into the circle somewhere close to 23 mph (big tail wind), and she decimated my ass through the turn—once again. This has become a recurring theme.

The story appears to be this: My extra weight is a lot harder to hold in the turn, so I have two choices. Either I slow down, or I get centrifuged into the weeds. Her skinny little ass can cut to the inside, and accelerate out, while I'm floundering with inertia.

I assume all the criterium heads out there know this phenomenon all too well.

 
23051/30/2008 8:12:00 PMFGOh, for cryin' out loud!

 Maybe.

But you are going to love tomorrow's Splendiferous Psycho Superlative Grandissimo Finalitatus Twin Lynn History Month Finale.

It is impossible for it to fail meeting your most lavish expectations. That is an Amercian Road Cycling fully certified guarantee.

 
23041/30/2008 1:07:00 PMBLASTERSpeaking of woodworks, The Booty is back in NY and has gotten himself a job making love dolls or something like that.

 Thanks for posting. PCP's was too perfect for a response.

 
23031/30/2008 11:14:00 AMPCPHoly Toledo. Everyone is coming out of the woodwork!   
23021/30/2008 10:01:00 AMDr. Artie Art
Artie
Artie Art
Donohue
My docotor told me I'm all checked out. The heart problem was merely a slight viral infection of the pericardium, and it wouldn't have been life threatening unless I had died.

So I'm all set, and my heart can take it… hit me with that Twin Lynn History Month Grand Finale!!!

 Soon, my friend. Soon.

We just have to take care of this first. >>>

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23011/30/2008 12:21:00 AMPCPHey, Gapper. How is that skirt with the aerodynamics?

 I'll let him respond, but I'm thinking it's a breeze.

By the way, you have managed to step all over a future article. But that one we are saving until after the HUMONGOID MASSIVE-SAURIS FINAL EPISODE OF TWIN LYNN HISTORY MONTH.

 
23001/29/2008 8:16:00 PMRyanThe previous post wasn't mine either… but I've been out riding, ESPECIALLY when it's below 40 degrees.

 ARC staff is fully aware that Ryan will ride in absolutely any weather. We are also aware that he has never mastered the skill of knowing when to keep his mouth shut.

Guess he thought it was all over except for the Big Finale-stranza. Guess he was wrong. >>>

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22991/29/2008 6:02:00 PMGapperThe prior post was not an official Gapper post.

I suspect it was SlingShot. In any event I have not been riding. If the weather is at least 40 this weekend and no rain you may see me.

 SlingShot would never do such a thing. But if he thought just mentioning people's names would get them riding again, he might start.

Here, let me check the IP number to see who did it. Hmm… yeah, got it.

It was SlingShot. He's probably all psyched up about the upcoming big Twin Lynn History Month Mega Finale.

 
22981/29/2008 4:57:00 PMddoTHey, Gapper!   
22971/29/2008 11:01:00 AMGapperHow's that BIG Grand Finale coming along?

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22961/28/2008 6:56:00 PMSlamCrankI really enjoyed reading the workout results at the bottom of the Clearwater Bridge section of the Widder's Hump today, but what was SlingShot doing all that time?

 I dream of someday being able to ride like Humberto, so I've been practicing sitting on the back and laughing at Mary.

 
22951/28/2008 10:23:00 AMRyanSince the big Grand Finale is almost here, I'd expect you'd be doubling up on the daily dosage.

 And right you are. Here's two. 70 & 71. Although we are a little unsure if the second one is one.

It's a little hard to see, but 71's rollover is sung slowly to the tune of The Arkansas Traveler, so it really must be one. >>>

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22941/28/2008 2:36:00 AMStephen
Coldbear
I've got a question. Grand Finale, or Grandest Finale? Yes. 
22931/28/2008 2:30:00 AMSlimChimpHold on, pards. Those last two (68 & 69) were from Spirited Away. Don't tell me now you're ripping off Japanese anime!

 We won't.

 
22921/28/2008 12:53:00 AMPCP28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, GRANDE' FINALE'!!!!!!

 Something like that.

 
22911/27/2008 7:54:00 PMPCPMr. Wizard, You've lost the control switch. You've created a Photoshop Monster!! You must get her back to Kansas (from Floriduh), before she photo shops the time travel machine into a skirt wearing bike!

 Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. >>>

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22901/27/2008 4:22:00 PMSlamCrankSave the date! Saturday March 1 is the day for the annual Taliban Winter Party. Details will be available soon at:
www.%#!$.org.

 Well then you should probably post this over there.

 
22891/27/2008 4:18:00 PMTwin
Lynn
Go ahead, Slingshot. Have your fun. You don't know who you're messing with.

 What makes you think I have had anything to do with this?

 
22881/27/2008 12:38:00 PMJOSomebody said that in the run-up to the big Grand Finale super extravaganza, you just posted three Lynn History Month installments all at the same time.

 Yep: 65, 66 and 67. Here's 65. Click the numbers for the others. >>>

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22871/26/2008 11:45:00 PMCaliperGirlI got it!

 Not even close. >>>

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22861/26/2008 11:43:00 PMSlamCrankI think I figured out what the Grand Finale is going to be.

 No you haven't. This is not it. >>>

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22851/26/2008 2:26:00 PMddoTThis Grand Finale better be something really special.

 Oh, it is going to be grand alright… and totally unexpected. It will go down as one of the prize moments in ARC history of all times. Guaranteed!

 
22841/26/2008 2:19:00 PMddoTI hear mountain biking is good for you.

 Yes, it is. >>>

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22831/26/2008 12:17:00 PMTwin
Lynn
All this Hump talk is fine and dandie, but it's cold outside and…

 Shut the fuck up, pelican breathe.

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22821/26/2008 11:20:00 AMSlamCrankDoesn't look like there's been much of a buildup to the Lynn History Month Grand Finale.

 Oh, it's coming alright. It's coming, and it is HUGE!

 
22811/26/2008 9:57:00 AMPalletmanNegotiations are continuing with "Love the Hump" sponsors, as soon as we cut a deal we will announce.

 As proud sponsors of last year's series, ARC has $200 burning a hole in our pockets, and we are just waiting to see if the same high quality of sponsorship as last year is retained, or if the whole process goes to shit and gets populated by fashion industry wonks. We only like to be seen among sponsors with the appropriate credential.

In any case, we haven't been contacted about it, so we assume everything is set.

Otherwise, we follow approved American Road Cycling process that dictates: "Since we are all Presidents, the person who mentions a project is immeiately deemed the de facto chairperson of that project," so we assume you are the person in charge and will therefore know all the details.

We are also sure you will let us know if this year's series is worth our money.

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22801/25/2008 7:22:00 PMTwin
Lynn
Look, I really have a problem with...

 Shut the fuck up, birdbrain.

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22781/25/2008 11:09:00 AMBrand
New
Bruce
Hey, P'man, Brand New here.

Last year I won that special T shirt doing the I Love the Winter Hump Series. What have you got planned for this year?

 That's a good question. What ya got goin' P'ster? 
22771/25/2008 10:58:00 AMPCPHEY! I ordered my cake with candle number 2263, not 2265!!!

 Understood. We ran out of stock with the 2263's. That's why you got the free upgrade to that spiffy 2265. We probably should have explained. Don't worry. You will not be charged extra.

 
22761/25/2008 9:25:00 AMPalletmanSlingShot, I think it's time to visit the doctor again to review your meds. Hey, don't forget to talk up the "Love the Hump Winter Series" starting Feb. 2nd.

 Ok. >>>

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22751/25/2008 12:50:00 AMFGTalking about your "Gal Friday" her back again?

 I just try to keep my head down. Even so, it is often met with a foot coming up.

 
22741/24/2008 8:27:00 PMTwin LynnZirra and me. Nice photo. We are definitely prettier than Kong and Faye Wray. It was beauty that killed the beast. And Sling is next if he doesn't stop this shit on February 1.

 Cool your jets, madame. We have a massive Grand Finale flurry of fireworks planned. Actually, it is already in the can. To give you a taste, here is one that was rejected. >>>

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22731/24/2008 1:32:00 PMSlingShotIn case you were wondering, this is my life.

This morning in the kitchen, "That FUCKING CUNT!"

"What?!"

"I TOLD HER THREE TIMES NOT TO FORGET THE APPLES AND... oh, here they are."

 Somebody better get this info over to FG. 
22721/24/2008 1:13:00 PMTurtle
Boy
Why'd you make Zirra so small on PCP's cake? That's not a small Zirra. That's a big cake. 
22711/24/2008 12:29:00 PMToe Clip GuyLooking Goooood!

 Don't you have mitochondria and transport enzymes to be studying?

Let me remind you to be careful around Twin Lynn. Things can happen. >>>

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22701/24/2008 11:26:00 AMSlamCrankLots of photos today. There must be a Grand Finale brewing.

 Yes, but this is not it. >>>

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22691/24/2008 9:55:00 AMPCPYes, FG. Donuts are cake if they have a candle in them.

 We got your candle for you, down there on #2265.

 
22681/24/2008 12:21:00 AMFGCranky, do doughnuts count as cake?

 Here, you need something almost pretty. >>>

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22671/24/2008 12:20:00 AMFGSo, in other words SlingShot, the Widder kicked your ass. So why don't you just come out and say it? It's obvious, isn't it? All this crap about headwinds and tailwinds, wattage and bridges, coolups and cooldowns… then you throw down the menses card… nice guy!

 Mais non, mon frère. Without her fancy pants hills, the Widder ain't so hard to deal with, except for the menses of course. You know, when I met her she mentioned it, but I thought she said she had a problem with mensa.

 
22661/23/2008 11:39:00 PMddoTHappy 31st birthday, Cranky!

 No need to do that. We took care of it below. Here's one for you. >>>

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22651/23/2008 11:31:00 PMPCPToday is my birthday too. And tomorrow and the next day. Please send cake.

 Ok. >>>

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22641/23/2008 4:05:00 PMBianchiAll this talk about wattage gets me excited to workout, but I don't have a watt meter on by bike. How can I confirm my own performance without one?

 Well, for those people who don't have a watt meter, there is an easier way to test yourself very precisely.

All you have to do is go out on a ride with Humberto (Turtle Boy) and his two aggravating little friends Dangerous Dan and Twin George.

Dangerous and George will beat up on you while Humberto laughs. The more he giggles the better you are doing. The goal is to make him to pee his pants, which is not very easy to do.

I have done it, but only after a lot of laughing on Humberto's part, and a lot of puking on my own.

 
22631/23/2008 9:04:00 AMJOHey, aren't the Calandrillos having birthdays or something?

 That's right. We got this photo from Mary Ellen's birthday party.

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22621/23/2008 12:27:00 AMPCPHello. Is this the reading room? I'd like to join the winter reading club. Do you also sometimes cycle? That might be fun too. Oh, and I wear glasses and sit in the front row.

 No this is not the reading room. In fact some French guy said reading is "interdit," which I think means stupid.

Wait a minute. Did you say front row… glasses? Do you look anything like Lisa Loeb? Do you wear short skirts? Maybe this is the reading room.

Oops, sorry. I dropped my pencil.

 
22611/22/2008 10:56:00 PMFGThe Internet!? That old thing still around?

 Parts of it. Though we have managed to fuck this section up totally.

Sorry it took the overnight for me to respond. I was asleep in bed by the time you posted. You'll get a kick out of this.

Widder had her first ever actual sprint workout yesterday, but I fucked up and things got out of hand. The plan was for an eight mile spin warmup, then eight maximum effort sprints, then a long leisurely cool down.

The warmup went as planned, but the sprints took longer than expected. Not the sprint part so much as the getting the Widder to understand what sprints are about part. She finally seemed to be catching on toward the end. At least I had stopped being scared shitless that she was about to crash in front of me from all her weaving all over the trail. We had long discussions about holding her position, how all that thrashing was just energy wasted in a direction not forward, etc, but that's all another long story.

In any case, during this whole time I was pacing behind her with her watt meter computer on my own bike yelling out wattages, giving her a goal, and making it so she wouldn't have to worry about watching her readout for herself.

When I originally got the idea to do that, I believed I was going to have to stay right on her wheel to keep the computer close to the wheel, but we tested it a few days ago and found that I could be back about a half dozen bike lengths or more and still read her wattage.

That watt meter is a miracle, but that is also whole 'nother long story.

What happened yesterday was this: By the time we had gotten Widder to understand sprints, I was already too interested in the readouts to stop. So for the next 12 miles I kept sitting behind her and watching her watts as she slow climbed the bridges for balance. I also kept an eye on her left leg, which is a problem because of her left foot bunions.

As an aside, it was noted that we were back to square one of several years ago. Her major limiting factor is her feet which are always in such pain she cannot step down on her pedals like normal people. Lots and lots of expensive orthotics later, we are back to the same place.

But yesterday her feet were extra hurty, because she was just starting her period. Her gynocolgist said extra pain during menses is typical, that the pain is there all other times, but she isn't as sensitive too it so can ignore it. I told her to turn that into a positive. Use the extra sensitivity to fine tune understanding of what that pain is doing to her ride, along with establishing procedures to deal with it. This is going to be one of the major hurdles for her 23+ Hump, but that's not the point of what happened yesterday.

By the time we had finished the outbound part of the ride, watching eveness and power transfer on all the bridges, and turned back out of the wind, the Widder had long since had her major jaw dropping, inexplicable look on her face, you would have found it hilarious, epiphany regarding the sprint interavals.

About 20 seconds after the last interval she quipped, "Huh? I didn't think I was doing anything. I didn't even get my breathing up, and now, my legs are all of a sudden REALLY TIRED!" For most of you, only her surprise will come as a surprise.

[Before I get cards and letters: Yes, I did confirm the sprints themselves did hurt—lots. It just didn't seem to her as being much, because her breathing didn't come up like she expected. Now, leave me alone about this.]

So by the time we turned around, she was in no mood to work the 16 miles coming home despite the tail wind. Plus, I noted it was going to take us about an hour at our current pace, but it would be a tragedy to waste her sprint workout overdoing the spin home. So, being a genius, I had a great idea.

"Here. You get behind me and draft, and I'll watch your meter to keep your watts in the right place."

Since I had not actually had a workout, it wouldn't matter for me. I could work as hard as it took, and we would get home quick.

So we got home quick, I finished up some Turtle Boy duties, passed out at 7:34, and missed your final post. Sorry.

It is now 5:45 the morning after.

 
22601/22/2008 10:04:00 PMTurtle
Boy
Be careful! I had French back in Europe, from 1979 until 1986. And when French said "non," she did not mean "dans." 
22591/22/2008 9:45:00 PMSlamCrankWell, there you have it: Turtle Boy's problem. No means no except in Portuguese, where it means in!

No wonder he is always in trouble, no?

 Jesus. 
22581/22/2008 8:57:00 PMTurtle
Boy
What?

No way!

Eu sou um simples ciclista no grupo B .

 Bien sûr ! Et je suis un idiot avec un petit cerveau ! Parles pas portugais. Et ne lisez pas. Ces choses sont interdit ! 
22571/22/2008 8:27:00 PMFGHmmmm… didn't know you could mail-order a CSCS… what ever happened to the good ole days where you actually had to GO to class?!?

 Ever hear of the Internet? Now class comes to you. You might like to take a look at Peterson's and start signing up for some book learnin'.

Oh, wait. Scratch that. There will be absolutely positively no reading. >>>

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22561/22/2008 8:25:00 PMCaliperGirlMaybe he thinks it will be him beating up on them (come Ridgebury), not the other way round. Maybe. 
22551/22/2008 8:21:00 PMSlamCrankWhat the hell is going on with Turtle Boy? Looks like he thinks he will never be at the Hump ever again?

 Looks like it.

 
22541/22/2008 5:29:00 PMTurtle
Boy
You Fukin guys with racing calenders, paid coaches, special diets, and precise training make me sick!!! It's about time you started showing some results.

 I got your results, right here swingin'.

Otherwise, here's that special photo you requested of your special friend after their Woodbury Commons' escapade. They don't have any of the things you mentioned… and it shows.

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22531/22/2008 2:21:00 PMJOIn an unrelated story, I heard that TP Joe Straub has turned into Toe Clip by trying to psych everybody up for an early season road race near home.

 Which, of course, nobody will do.

 
22521/22/2008 1:54:00 PMJOI heard Paris Hilton was at Woodbury Commons this past Sunday to take advantage of the Victoria Secret sale and bought out all the thongs in the store. She caused a huge traffic jam. The state police were called in.

 I guess that means you want to see this again. >>>

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22511/22/2008 12:20:00 PMSlamCrankGood god, don't tell me you're going to...

 Yes. >>>

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22501/22/2008 11:53:00 AMSlamCrankBut doesn't having a degree in chiropractic medicine also qualify as a prerequisite?

 Nothing's perfect.

 
22491/22/2008 11:51:00 AMSlamCrankSo what makes that certification so special?

 Well, you have to prove you have the ability to think first by showing them you have a BS or BA. That's slightly different than having the sole prerequisite your ability to pen a check.

 
22481/22/2008 11:25:00 AMPCPYes, and the only difference will be that when you kick our asses now, we'll know that we didn't "blow up," but rather hastily depleted our glycogen stores and didn't produce enough ATP fast enough to drop you on Ridgebury.

 Man, I really, really, really hate people who know things.

 
22471/22/2008 11:23:00 AMSlamCrankShit. Looks like some heavy academic lifting required. Maybe they'll both fail, and we will still be able to kick their asses.

 One would hope.

 
22461/22/2008 11:15:00 AMSlamCrankWhat the fuck is a CSCS? Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist.

Sounds like poppycock to me, but supposedly 21,000 people working in the team performance coaching industry have it, plus it's the only accredited program of its type.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't give it the time of day. Except, if Toe Clip would risk getting banned for becoming one (not to mention talking Cranky into blowing her chances at ARC as well), it must be a pretty significant way to cheat the competition.

Here, see for yourself. >>>

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22451/22/2008 3:09:00 AMToe Clip GuyExtreme? Maybe. But we would need more than the CSCS to figure this guy out—>

 You must be referring to me. However, why you would come to those ARC Staff asshole's defense because they were chided for banning you (and Cranky) is beyond me.

In any case, here's something even more confusing. >>>

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22441/22/2008 2:11:00 AMJOWord on the street is everybody is sick of Lynn History Month.

 Yeah, but we haven't fucked with everybody yet. >>>

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22431/21/2008 10:16:00 AMARC Staff
CRANKY BANNED FOR
CHEATING

 Don't you find yourselves a little extreme?

 
22421/21/2008 10:12:00 AMARC Staff
TOE CLIP BANNED FOR
CHEATING

It has come to our attention that Toe Clip has been reading.

In fact, it has gone so far that he is actually taking a formal course to get certified as a strength training specialist.

Everbody knows knowledge is more powerful than drugs.

Therefore, Toe Clip is banned for cheating.

 You people make me sick.

BTW: Cranky is taking the same course.

 
22411/20/2008 11:55:00 PMPCPClipper - Your Dad made a fabulous recommendation. You know the book list he published a few weeks ago? Well, this one is a great pre-cursor to our "Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning." I'm reading it now:

Tortora, Gerard J. 1997. "Introduction to the Human Body: the essentials of anatomy and physiology." 4th ed. Menlo Park, CA: Addison Wesley Longman, Inc. ISBN: 0-673--98222-X

Oh, and don't tell Slingshot, because we're not supposed to be reading!!

 Gerard, 1997 is not a book to be read. It is a book to be studied.

I got it at the OCCC book store. Everytime I start something serious, I go over there to see what they are using in courses.

Their bookstore is better than Barnes & Noble.

 
22401/20/2008 11:52:00 PMPCPWhere is Georgie Girl?

 All we know is: those last two posts weren't her.

My theory is: she has a life, so hasn't found out this place is cooking again… and by cooking, I mean SlingShot is getting fried, and not much else done.

 
22381/20/2008 11:24:00 PMGeorgieDo you have a picture of her boss?

 We think so. Here it is. >>>

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22371/20/2008 10:48:00 PMGeorgieIs Paris married? No, but she has a Boss. 
22361/20/2008 10:21:00 PMCaliperGirlThis is getting tiresome.

 I know. I'm sick of it. >>>

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22351/20/2008 8:09:00 PMTurtle
Boy
shiiiiiiiiiiiit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

  I am going back to the heart doctor

 That is not going

 

to stop the nightmares.

 
22341/20/2008 7:22:00 PMSlamCrankYou guys are always talking about Paris Hilton, but we never get to see her. Lets have a look.

 Leaving her out has always been a purely aesthetic decision, but if you must, here, see for yourself… >>>

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22331/20/2008 12:05:00 PMForeign
Gorrespondant
I phoned the hospital, and Art was discharged. Or did they say he has discharge? I'm not really sure. But anyway, he's out of the meat locker… err… hospital.

 Good. Easier to kick his ass.

 
22321/19/2008 10:13:00 PMPalletmanI won't be able to sleep tonite, because it's all over for us. Mrs. McNeilly will not be a happy camper, I'll be clinging to her like white on rice, stink on dog shit etc. You know what I mean.

If we're still around in the A.M. she'll be pissed at SlingSnot (her words, not mine).

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22311/19/2008 9:39:00 PMJOAny real news to report? Yeah, we just lived through a rather exciting wind event.

The weather people on BayNews9 (Tampa), were beside themselves excited to use a new doppler toy they just bought. They tracked the thing inch by inch… still at it.

The Widder was in the pink-room on her computer, giving somebody a banana or something, when I yelled in to her, "Tornado warning! You gonna come watch!"

"Ok, just a second. Where'd they say it is?"

"Right here. We can watch it out the front door!"

So Widder runs in and we're standing by the door when the newscaster says, "You people need to get in your safe place RIGHT NOW!"

Well, of course, The Widder is an avid television storm chaser watcher, so she immediately chirps… well, actually she just dropped into a very still stare that washed across her face as her eyes froze focused on blank space, "We don't have a safe place!"

"Exactly."

But that wasn't the best part.

Just at that moment the weather forcaster mentions a few towns the storm had already passed through and says, "It's all over for you folks."

So we spent the next 20 minutes talking about what it must be like for somebody to turn on their TV and hear the name of their town followed by, "It's all over for you folks."

The weather guys spent that whole time hawking weather events like the Home Shopping Network hawks estate jewelry. One of the intensely breathless events was a possible water spout (just down the road from us), followed again by the names of a few towns and, "It's all over for you folks."

Now Mary is back in her corner, Photoshoping some new ARC events. Nothing for you who have already been trashed to worry about. It's all over for you folks.

 
22301/19/2008 8:58:00 PMSlamCrankWhat the fuck is Cranky's problem with all this Grand Finale crap? She was probably hoping for something like this. >>>EXTRA
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22291/19/2008 3:00:00 PMPCPDo we have to beg? Is the Grand Finale going to be SlingShot in the grass skirt? It would only be fitting. Do it Widder. You have the powers now!!!

 Keep your fat-ass ideas to yourself, Cranky. I'm miserable enough to live with.

 
22281/19/2008 1:21:00 PMTurtle
Boy
I know everybody calls her Twin Lynn, but why don't we ever get to see her twin?

 Sorry. Our omission. Here. >>>

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22271/19/2008 12:34:00 PMSlamCrankI just phoned Dr. Art's, and his answering machine said that somebody is covering for him while he's in the hospital for arhythmia. I guess that means it's not a secret.

I always knew he danced funny, but I never thought it was that bad.

 Dufus. Arhythmia is not about funny dancing (though he does dance a lot like Elaine from Seinfeld), it's about funny heart beats.

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22261/18/2008 3:37:00 PMFGWhen she met Sarkozy and Bush, I hope she shoved that banana where the sun don't shine!

 C'mon, give her a break, will ya? A girl can only do what a girl can do. Both of their sunshades were totally filled up, and we think we know why. >>>

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22251/18/2008 12:44:00 PMCaliperGirlBig deal! So Lynn has met Sarkozy and Bush. Did she ever meet anybody important?

 Sure. >>>

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22241/18/2008 9:51:00 AMPalletmanFrom what I understand, people around the water cooler are questioning if Black Widow has ever gotten her ass kicked on Ridgebury by Twin Lynn. Most seem to think it's just a little of Black Widow's bravdo kicking in.

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22231/17/2008 10:40:00 PMddoTDo you plan to Photoshop yourself ahead of everyone on the top of Ridgebury?

Keep dicking around with Lynn's picture, and I'll soon be able to get off of my bike and run past you.

 What makes you think you cannot do that already?

In any case, despite everyone's best hopes, Lynn History Month will eventually end… just not today. >>>

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22221/17/2008 10:28:00 PMFGMookalakaeeki,
commoniwannalaya, pass the poi Mahala! gungadunga gungadunga…

PCP, I had a nightmare last night: SlingShot was out front of the gallery, washing his truck, in nothing but a hula skirt… a terrible, horrible experience for all involved—especially the truck!

 Could have been worse. >>>

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22211/17/2008 8:33:00 PMTwin LynnFolks, these photos are real. It's not Widder playing with her Photoshop.

Condoleeza Rice is conspicously absent in the pictures, and that's because she was afraid the queen of hono-looly was gonna KICK HER ASS!

 Wait a second. Let me check something in my speller… yep, that's what I thought.

The correct spelling is "Hona-loopy," not "hono-looly."

Here you go, take a look why. >>>

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22201/17/2008 5:41:00 PMiShotHere's your first post from an iPhone! Go away. 
22191/17/2008 11:36:00 AMCaliperGirlOk, maybe off-shore, but in this country she's a nobody.

 We were saving this one, but… >>>

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22181/17/2008 11:32:00 AMSlamCrankI always knew Lynn was a legend in her own mind.

 Quite the contrary. She spreads it around. >>>

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22171/17/2008 11:00:00 AMARC StaffThe following e-mail to the Widder was intercepted by our operatives:

"Well, considering it's really Twin Lynn+everyone-else-on-the-planet History Month, he'll never run out of material.

Lynn"

 Well, it is probably time we started focusing more on Lynn. After all, it is Twin Lynn History Month. >>>

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22161/17/2008 1:00:00 AMPCPAll kidding aside, I'm a little spooked by this party line of discussion.

Last nite I had a dream that Widder and Sling had a party at their house. Several days before the party, B and I dropped off wine. However, the nite of the party most of it was missing.

In the dream I was trying to decide whether 1) Slingshot binge drank it all beforehand or 2) Widder hid some, because she didn't want the party to get out of hand—like we hear can happen.

Additionally, Dan - thanks for waking SlingShot up out of his winter funk.

 Ok, Cranky. Sit down, take a deep breathe, and try not to get upset when I explain your grave error.

That is not called a dream, it is called a memory.

Lay off the sauce.

And no need to thank, P'man. This is all Widder's fault.

She knows I hate to waste time on this shit, but even though I shut the website down, and told her to never pass any of this on to me ever again, she continued bothering me with the e-mail she was getting to the point that I had to set her up with Photoshop in order to get just a few seconds to myself for practicing verb conjugations and resting up for the next round of Intervals.

Once again, Palletman is an innocent bystander—sort of like at the Hump.

 
22151/17/2008 12:58:00 AMSlamCrankCould that party thing be true?

 Turns out it is. This came off the upstairs web cam. >>>

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22141/17/2008 12:38:00 AMddoTBlah blah blah, ride your fuckin bikes. Is it my imagination, or has ddoT gone rational on us? 
22131/17/2008 12:09:00 AMFGPalletman, how dare you bring the DPW into this! We don't clean shit from nobody's front! Got it?

SlingShot, please don't ever post that photo of Dr. Art again…besides… I think there really was a party at the Gallery… I even saw lights on upstairs, and there were Hula skirts in the trash the next day.

 See? That's more like it. 
22121/16/2008 11:05:00 PMPalletmanHey guys, I drove by the Gallery today on the way to #2's basketball game in Warwick.

I thought you guys were having a party and didn't invite me—there were so many cars parked out front! Then I realized that, no, you are still in Floriduh; and all your neighbors were keeping the shoppers from parking in front of your place. You have really great neighbors!

Oh, and the DPW did a great job cleaning up from the last snow storm in front of your place. That's what I really miss about village life: everyone's neighbors looking out for one another.

Wait till you see the new streetscape they have planned for Sugar Load. You know, all the money is coming from either the State or the Feds so it won't cost you a thing! Isn't that great…I want to move to Sugar Load!

 Well, that pretty much illustrates why we run outside (when we are home) and tell the DPW to skip our property when shoveling.

If we wanted it shoveled, we'd hire somebody, and if we shoveled it, all the townies would consider it the only place in town to park, forgetting that an actual customer of theirs might like to find a place to park if they ever wandered into town.

When we are out of town, there are elements who have never paid a Chamber due, nor advertising fee, in their life (and default on every bill they can), who saunter on over and plead with the County or Town trucks to shovel out our place in order for them to use.

We have a long standing verbal ok (with the County), and preliminary plans in place, to block off our front parking lot and move it to the side yard if things get out of hand again. Of course, there are always plenty of town newbies (who will also be gone by any give spring) who don't have a clue about what that move would mean to them. Those that last long enough eventually get clued in.

We also routinely show up at Sugar Load meetings with our lawyer in order to explain to these bullshit loser groups (very similar to what a well known local cycling club has become) that they may fuck with the rest of the town all they want, but if they ever try to touch our property with their hair brained schemes we will gladly tie their asses up in court for the duration.

Litigation has become a hobby of ours since our three year stint in law offices and court houses (not to mention the $15,000.00 outlay) protecting ourselves against a 1/2 million dollar law suit over a fence that I put in. We prevailed, and now we have a nice spiffy map (and ruling) to help us explain to the next numbskull that they are forgetting who owns the property.

I guess most of all, this just shows you how fucked up the Internet is: it allows too much distance to easily kill the messenger.

I should probably shut down the Chatter Box again, and get back to French, but I have already made you too happy by responding.

 
22111/16/2008 9:33:00 PMPalletmanOK,OK,

So when are you going to put up a picture of ME in a Hula Skirt?!

It's just not fair.

 Actually, using somebody else's name is what is not fair.

We already did Palletman (linked from post #2205 below), and we know you are not Palletman, because your IP doesn't match. Plus, even Palletman isn't stupid enough to miss his own moment in Twin Lynn History Month.

On the other hand, if you are in fact Palletman (from a new location), we always knew you were a total fucking idiot.

Otherwise, here's your bonus. >>>

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22091/16/2008 11:35:00 AMPalletmanI think I see a smile on Twin Lynn's face in the Dr. Art photo.

 Lynn was kinda hoping you weren't going to say anything. >>>

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22081/16/2008 12:22:00 AMTwin LynnCranky, your straps are showing. So there's a helmet underneath all that hair? I'm glad to see you still practice safe cycling.

Slingshot, who are you calling an old hippie?

Spazpup, don't forget the old saying about the company you keep—you could end up with fleas.

And Art… put me down, you're getting me all greasy.

 I was kinda hoping you weren't going to say anything. >>>

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22071/15/2008 10:27:00 PMFGWhere did you ever find that picture of me from my High School tennis team?

 Incredible, huh? We also dug up this old photo of a friend of yours.

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22061/15/2008 9:52:00 PMPCPWHOA!! Sling and Widder! You may be onto something with that last doo on me. The blown back fro almost resembles a time trial helmit.

 See, Palletman? We aren't on something, we're onto something!

 
22051/15/2008 2:49:00 PMPalletmanHey, that picture of Cranky makes her look like a Hasidic with those little curls by her ears… it's cute on her.

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22041/15/2008 12:28:00 PMARC StaffThat appears to have been a tacit acknowledgement that the earlier Download Kim post was in fact the real deal.

 So it seems. 
22031/15/2008 11:57:00 AMDownload KimDamn, you're good. Could you also tell what I was wearing?

PCP - Happy New Year to you too!

 I saw nothing. 
22021/15/2008 10:52:00 AMSlamCrankYeah, but what if that really was Download Kim? Then what? Then this. >>>EXTRA
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22011/15/2008 12:58:00 AMPCPDownload! I think you are onto something. Maybe if they all get big hair we can stop working so hard on Saturdays. Oh, and Happy New Year! I'm not sure if they have to go all the way to big hair. Maybe if the people who started this got any hair at all they'd be easier to deal with.

In any case, you have made a rather large assumption that the previous post is Download Kim. Although I no longer check the weblogs (I have a life, such as it is), I still check to make sure everybody, who says they are who they say they are, can be confirmed as being them or somebody else. The IP for the previous post is UV152, therefore, an unknown.

They were, however (before I stopped tracking) on this website 08/18/07, 08/22/07, and 09/06/07. They looked only at the Home Page during their first stop, then on the second date they hit the Home Page and Chatter Box, plus a bounce to Lynn's photo from the Tour de Goshen. On the third date they looked at the Home Page, then the Chatter Box. So maybe it is Download at home.

In summary: unlike politicians, who all find it very easy to disavow resposibility for anything done or said in their name, I like to be a little careful when it comes to who is making trouble on this website.

We'll let you know if Download e-mails us from her office, or from the IP of the previous post, to confirm she is who she says and not merely Lynn trying suck her wheel.

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22001/14/2008 11:50:00 PMDownload KimI've tried full bodied shampoos and conditioners before, but never with results like that! I wonder if all that "doo" in the wind will affect their averages? Ah, but a small price to pay for such beauty.   
21991/14/2008 8:22:00 PMFGWhy do I suddenly feel like I have a monkey on my back?

Best be careful, SlingShot. Your juvenilia is showing.

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21971/14/2008 10:31:00 AMddoTThank god you only have one picture of me.

 Yeah, things could have gotten out of hand. >>>

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21941/13/2008 8:27:00 PMPalletmanOK, it took me awhile to figure it out, but I have. Which one of you two assholes got a new version of Photoshop for Christmas?

Jesus, you're both like a bunch of six year olds. When are you going to start talking about serious stuff…likes Hillary's Coronation! I'd love to kiss her…ring! And what about riding?

You haven't given us anything on training tips etc. Come on stay focused!

Remember why you started this web site in the first place! I await your response. Although it won't be until tomorrow cause Black Widow's already in bed sans SlingShot.

 Actually, I started this website merely to fuck with some people who deserved it.

Granted, we are like six year olds. However, the juvenilia of political campaigns is closer to two year old level.

Here, let me give you a hint about what's going to change: NOTHING.

In any case, if you, my dear P'man, were in my position, you would also give Widder free use of Photoshop in order to take up her time.

Otherwise, you'd have to endure such as this. >>>

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21921/13/2008 1:27:00 AMToe Clip GuyYes, it was a good ride today. Reminds me how important it is to ride outdoors thru the winter. Thanks again for the book, Todd.

What I wanna know though is this: how the hell did Florida know that Chester Pete caught a flat, and we didn't know until it was too late? And how did he know BLASTER took a short cut and still got caught?

 We have our methods and procedures.

By the way, you guys have already been warned about reading.

 
21911/12/2008 9:56:00 PMSlingShotThen, just when you've given up on somebody, they send you this:

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Sincerely,

*** Management and Technical Support Team

 Then you get all dewey eyed and forgive them. After all, we are all in this together.

Better leave the Help note up there for awhile, just in case.

 
21901/12/2008 9:39:00 PMddoTNice ride today everybody! Yeah, we heard Chester Pete had a flat, and the Pokers (dressed in black) came out late wearing their suntan lotion, and just when BLASTER thought he was home free he heard from behind, "Go straight! Go straight!"

I had a great day trying to find an alternative ISP for the server. I think I'll sue them for making me fat.

 
21891/12/2008 8:55:00 PMPCPHoly Toledo. Ann Palletwoman is going to shut this crap down. Not likely, but the place that houses our server just might. Everybody please read the Help note just above the Chatter.

Today's search of trade mags at the big book stores revealed nobody bothers with print advertising anymore, so I'm going to leave that note up there while doing research online.

Otherwise, get ready for the big doings tomorrow morning… good lord willing and the bandwidth don't rise.

 
21881/12/2008 7:10:00 PMFG…hmmm… I don't seem to recall saying that…

 That has always been your problem… no imagination. Here, see if this helps. >>>

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21871/11/2008 11:03:00 PMFGLooks like you toned down Toe Clip's ass. However, he did have a point. What would a Cranky History Month look like?

 Like this. >>>EXTRA
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21861/11/2008 10:38:00 PMBLASTERIt looks like it will be A good morning for A Humpride. What time will the earlybird ride takeoff?

 Don't know. Our schedule is for an easy 50 in the hot sun. 
21851/11/2008 4:17:00 PMDownload KimSounds like a plan. American Road Cycling disavows any involvement in any so called plans. In fact we like Twin Lynn and will be sorry to see her ass downloaded on a silver platter and handed to her at the top of Ridgebury.

We are merely reporting her history as accurately as we are able.

 
21841/11/2008 3:00:00 PMDownload KimI'm impressed how protective I get when someone invades my territory. I must have done well in tips that day!  You, protective? I don't believe there was any mention of just who it was that made the appropriative statement.

Granted, it was a horrible thing to say, but it has never been clear who said it.

Sounds like something best worked out on Ridgebury.

 
21831/11/2008 12:07:00 PMToe Clip GuyPalletman, would you please chime in?...What do you say about their finding my long lost cousin? After all, it sprung from a great proposition (Feb PCP month) to a freakin NIGHTMARE!

 Snap! The trap springs shut.

I'm thinking Palletman will have the good sense to remain mute. But what if we made February Toe Clip History Month? It would probably look something like this. >>>

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21821/11/2008 12:03:00 PMSlamCrankOk, if I promise not to read any of those books, can I get some more Lynn History Month? Sure. >>>EXTRA
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21811/11/2008 12:08:00 AMddoTToe clip- If you wear that skirt, I'm not riding with you Saturday. Good. That should cut down on the reading.

In fact, here's a list of books that are specifically banned.

In particular: absolutely positively no Friel, certainly no Baker, and for sure no Burke. >>>

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21801/10/2008 11:25:00 PMToe ClipWheew!... That was close. It's been over seven hours, so I guess it's over. I was afraid those Toe Clip photos would catch on, and it would go on forever.

 Yes, thank goodness that's over, but I can understand where your fear came from.

Here, look how quiet I can make Palletman. >>>

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21791/10/2008 4:16:00 PMToe Clip GuyNow THAT was FUGLY! Thanks for finding my long lost cousin.

I'll be there Saturday, lid and cleats. But if I find my cousin out there, I'm running!

 Just make sure to take everybody's books, so they can't be reading them. 
21781/10/2008 2:09:00 PMToddToe Clip- don't forget your lid this time, and I'll also bring you that book Saturday.

 I told you guys already: NO READING!

 
21771/10/2008 12:13:00 PMDownload Kim Insiders tell me that Imposter Download is at it again?

 Yeah, she was sneaking around here, but this time we caught a photo of her. >>>

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21751/10/2008 10:17:00 AMPCPThose shoes give new meaning to Toe Clips!!!!

 It's about time we got him into something a little more comfortable.

 
21741/10/2008 1:43:00 AMToe Clip GuyWe ride on Saturday!... February may be Black History Month, but I'd switch it up for Cranky (as a belly dancer) Month any day! I'm sure you would. Be careful what you ask for. >>>EXTRA
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21731/9/2008 11:56:00 PMddoTYeah, I hope February is Cranky month. Anybody planning on riding Saturday? Yes. 
21721/9/2008 11:36:00 PMTwin LynnI can't wait until February. And I'll bet I'm not the only person thinking that way. I know what you mean. I can't wait either. It's Lynn History Month. >>>EXTRA
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21711/9/2008 10:38:00 AMSlamCrankOk, so it's 1 degree warmer in NY this morning than in Floriduh. So what! I still want my Lynn History Month. The Lynn-a-paloosah continues. >>>EXTRA
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21701/8/2008 9:14:00 PMTurtle
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I have spared no expense (and paid for the best that Portugal has to offer) in order to provide state-of-the-art support crews and a team car for the cyclists who will accompany me to Portugal.

I want to thank all the people who have made this possible.

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Now all you gotta do is find something Dangerous will eat. 
21691/8/2008 9:06:00 PMCrankyHere, SlingShot, take that!EXTRA
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21671/8/2008 11:16:00 AMPCPHey ddoT,

One other method to check body fat that Slingshot left off the list - the 'Download Kim Pose' in front of 50 people. If they clap, your body fat is under 10%, a fine target for a svelte youth such as yourself.

 Try as I might, I can never keep all these methods straight in my mind.

In any case, just a suggestion… actually a matter of safety: ddoT, if you use the Download Kim method, don't hold your breath while waiting for the applause. You might pass out and bump your head.

 
21661/8/2008 9:50:00 AMPalletmanNice try SlingShot, trying to get me in trouble with Twin Lynn. While she is a friend, I know that she can take care of herself. Just ask Chester Pete! However, if she should ever need it, I've got her back. I'm sure you do. Quit looking at her ass.EXTRA
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21651/8/2008 12:33:00 AMTwin LynnOoohhh… someone is feeding you photos for Twin Lynn History Month. Payback's a bitch. We can only tell you it wasn't Cranky. 
21641/7/2008 11:28:00 PMddoTI just put out an A-P-B on Download.

Where the hell is Gapper?

I heard Blaster is riding some cross country type (actually across the country, as in USA) ride.

What's a respectable body fat percentage for a typical cyclist these days? I read that Lance was down between 3% and 5% during his glory days. Yikes!

 Well… I'll cut right to the chase.

Body fat specs are as poorly reported as every other spec in sport. The only true way to get a reading is with a biopsy into the actual muscle. Other (far less accurate results) might come from comparing water submersion body weight versus standing out in the air body weight. There is also that nonsense of using the sensors on some bathroom scales to measure the bioelectrical impedance in your feet. And don’t forget the even more bullshit process of taking a wrist size measurement and comparing it to your waist size and factoring according to your height. What crap. All of it.

In any case, 3% to 5% is pretty much inside the margin of error for even the most stringent testing methods, so what the fuck does it all mean anyway? Are you telling me they could test Lance’s fat content so precisely but couldn’t catch him taking drugs? Get real.

But if you’d like to know the fat percentages in your feet, get one of them bathroom scales. Or if you like taking bubble baths, go the submersible route. If you want to know if your wrist is smaller than your waist look in the mirror.

If you want the most accurate accounting of your body fat, biopsy each muscle group. Be sure to cover the entire surface area with needle marks about a millimeter apart (you don’t want to go overboard) and average the results.

On the other hand, if you want the truest reading of your fat content just ask SlingShot. Here, let me respond just in case: I’ve seen you, and you are a fat-ass slow loser of a motherfucker.

There, does that do it for you? I left a link to the Widders belly to help you decide. She took the photo today. She's 53. >>>

BTW: Yeah, BLASTER is supposed to ride three or four million miles some week or two or three this summer. I’m not sure if that number is totally accurate, but I am quite sure it will feel like that by the time he’s done.

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21631/7/2008 11:18:00 PMPCPWho are you, defending Lynn? Stand up and be known! Maybe she would like to weigh in on you being her friend. With friends like this around here, who needs…

AND….was that really Download who posted as Download? Is Download back on the airwaves?

 Oops… somebody at ARC Central (Floriduh Extension) accidentally erased Palletman's name from the previous post.

Everybody is disavowing responsibility, so it must be all the interval work is causing mental lapses.

Otherwise, get real about Download Kim posting. Where is your head?

 
21621/7/2008 6:56:00 PM Ok you Mother F…ers, stop f…'in around with my friend Twin Lynn. What did she ever do to anyone? OK, maybe she kicked Black Widow's sorry little ass every now and then. But if you want to ride with the A's you can't be cry'in when you get your ass kicked. If I cried everytime I got my ass kicked you'd have to start building an Ark. If my memory serves me correctly (and it does), The Twin has never come close to beating The Widder; unless, of course, you mean in pure nastiness.

In any case, it's not us who's causing this. >>>

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21611/7/2008 12:59:00 PMDownload KimI want my Lynn History Month, and I want it now! Ok. >>>EXTRA
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21601/6/2008 11:01:00 PMSlamCrankThat is one ugly baby you got there, Cranky. Do us all a favor. Dump out some of those oranges, stick her in the basket, weigh it down with rocks, chip a hole in the ice on Glenmere lake, and feed the poor starving fishies. If Lynn ever shows up here, you're probably going to be sorry you said that. 
21581/6/2008 11:52:00 AMPCPWhich one is she?  The one. 
21571/6/2008 10:54:00 AMSlamCrankHey! Nice Hump article, but where's my Twin Lynn History Month? Here you go. >>>EXTRA
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21561/6/2008 12:30:00 AMToe Clip GuyHey, Dot, I mean Todd, No…Ddot… I'll let you know the next time I plan on training at PF.

Tomorrow is going to be a mild day, so I'll be riding outside. I can bring the book to Soho, as I currently have my literary plate full until the spring. Otherwise, I'll just hold it until I'm ready to read.

Hey, SlingShot, aren't you training down in training camp?

 Oh, we're training alright. Thirty-six miles of interval work today. It's just that you guys are precluded from. And there'll be no reading either.

BTW: Excuse me for correcting your grammar, but it's: ddoT.

Oh, yeah. You might find this interesting. >>>

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21551/5/2008 7:12:00 PMOsama bin LadenYikes! That photo scared me! Remove it now. Otherwise, may a thousand camels fart in your general direction! And people say I have a sick mind! Thanks for the feedback Os'man. We at American Road Cycling are pleased to be of service. BTW: How's Gitmo been workin' out for you? 
21541/5/2008 3:19:00 PMPCPIs Twin competing for Download Kim's spot? She keeps showing up scantilly clothed.  You ain't seen nothin' yet, but we're trying to get the rest off her. 
21531/5/2008 2:55:00 PMddoTTrying, SlingShot… not succeeding. Well, be sure and keep it that way. 
21521/5/2008 12:50:00 AMFGWell, your strawberries weren't the only ones frozen yesterday…

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21511/5/2008 12:38:00 AMddoTHey, Toe clip! Lemme know if you want that book, Soho didn't send me a reply, so it's yours if you want it.

I can meet you at planet fitness if you want.

 You fuckers better not be trying to get in shape. 
21501/5/2008 12:08:00 AMTwin LynnSling, first of all, it's your fault if I'm using the wrong form. A competent webmaster would spend his time removing bad links, but I guess you are too busy reading some stupid French-Swahili Dictionary cover to cover.

Second, you should have realized a long time ago that when I cast a spell I mean business. I don't fuck around. So far I just sent a little chill your way. So don't piss me off, otherwise I'll have to break out the eye of newt and then you'll really be freezing your nuts off.

 I guess the link directly above the Chatter titled: "CHATTER BOX SUBMITTAL FORM" is a little hard to find. Here let me help: ^

Otherwise, it's only The Widder who is causing you any trouble from this end, so just let me be. Put your eye of newt, and toe of Turtle Boy back in the jar.

 
21491/4/2008 3:11:00 PMSlamCrankHey, whatever happened to Twin Lynn History Month? Oh, there's more my friend. There's more. >>>EXTRA
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21481/3/2008 11:58:00 PMToe Clip GuyI no spicka no inglis tampoco!--- I mean, too! That's why I like this f@#$%^& place. It's very, what you say? Educational?

Glad to see it's back up and running (like a heavy freight train heading back north to New York in the spring? I should hope NOT!!!).

Slingshot, make use of the warm albeit windy weather down there. Train, Train, Train, so we can see you drop the A's on our chase to the real A's. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY.

Hey ddoT, I'm heading to Planet Fitness later to put in a couple of hours. 'Twas too cold out for me today.

Slingshot, if you have to ask how cold it was up here today, you don't deserve an answer. (Snow Bird!)

 Guess you missed the fact that it snowed on top of Cape Canaveral this morning. Plus, all around Tampa strawberries were freezing like FG's pecker.

Yesterday, I ran to the computer to check weather.com, because I thought the local news had put up an altered graphic just for shock value.

They were showing a big giant tongue of cold air from Canada had lapped down and split Floriduh right down the middle, pushing the clouds back off both coasts and leaving the entire state clear and FRIGID.

The locals had not altered the graphic. It was true.

Fuck Lynn and her "hope for record lows" curse.

Our only happy thought is knowing that it's Twin Lynn History Month.

 
21471/3/2008 10:04:00 PMTwin LynnThis is true. I once lived at 666 Hag Street.  And now you are domiciled on Can't Find the Right Form Boulevard.

 
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21451/2/2008 9:37:00 PMFGToo cold outside to mountain bike ride tonight...my pecker nearly froze to the side of my thigh. Looks like it's back on the rollers for this week. Glad to see the cold has you all fixed up. Give my regards to Rollers, and tell her I miss her. 
21441/2/2008 11:53:00 AMTurtle boyOK.

Somebody else will take your place.

I am calling Kevin.

 That's right. I hear Kevin just loves the Computrainer and lives to talk about wattage specs. 
21431/2/2008 11:47:00 AMJoe
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For the next two months I will NOT have the time to ride with you big losers. I am busy with a combination of perfect diet and PRECISE TRAINING.

So please, TURTLE BOY, stop calling me!

Computrainers are a waste of my time. Even Dangerous is fast on them. And no, I am not going with you guys to Portugal to ride in that 70 degree weather.

   
21421/1/2008 11:35:00 PMTurtle BoyPlease, please... pretty please with sugar on top! Please, don't shut it down. Ok, just for Turtle Boy we'll keep it going. Besides, maybe they'll finally make English the Official U.S. Language, and we can start teaching it to George W.

 
21411/1/2008 10:39:00 PMPrincess
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Wahhhhooooooooooooo!! CHATTERBLABBER is back! Happy New Year. This is serious now. Slingshot really is trying anything to avoid riding! Oh, not you again, PCP. I'm shuttin' this shit down before it even starts. This useless, mindless blabbering when you people could be learning not only 2nd languages, but how about just plain old fuckin' English!

 
21401/1/2008 9:12:00 PMddoTHappy friggin new year! At least the only semi-fun part of my life has returned. Bash me, good lord, please bash me, SlingShot. Funny you should show up. Joe Straub just sent us a photo of a room he was told was Palletman's. We did some research and found out (but you already know this) that it was acutally an older photo of your own room.

We tracked down a more recent photo, and would like to ask you about your strange involvement with collectable dolls. >>>

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21391/1/2008 7:06:00 PMPalletmanThe only thing that resembles my room, is that photo of Download Kim. Kim, we miss you… April 1st is just around the corner. Guess somebody was just trying to get Joe Straub in trouble. Still, it does look like stuff you'd own.

 
21381/1/2008 5:58:00 PMThe BossWho the fuck is Turtle Boy? Humberto Cavalheiro, the Portugreasen 
21371/1/2008 5:55:00 PMSlamCrankWhat got this going again? Turtle Boy asked for it. 
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21351/1/2008 4:46:00 PMTwin LynnARC should be renamed to OCBC. Orange County Bulimia Club. How 'bout Oddly Cantankerous Butthole Crammers? Then we could do away with the initailization %#!$.

 
21341/1/2008 2:57:00 PMPalletmanSo what if I made it up! This whole web site is a fantasy world. … overshadowed only by your belief that you can ride. 
21331/1/2008 2:23:00 PMPalletmanBlack Widow, you've got my little friend up on Mt. Eve worried about your recent weight loss.

When told that you had already lost 3 lbs. on your new training plan, her response was: "Oh shit, I guess I'll start my double sessions in the basement sooner than expected… that f…in bitch."

P'man

 Settle down, Palletman. We know you made the whole thing up.

If we believed it we'd have to also mention The Widder just turned in a personal best baseline.

So with the pressure off, we can go back to working on Widder's 23+ Hump.

 
21321/1/2008 2:17:00 PMCrankySlingshot (c/o Black Widow),

After I get my dollar you can retire. Stop moaning and start pedaling.

Mary Beth

 Dollar? Don't know nothin' about no dollars. 
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